[lentulusgracchus]

There may be a liar in the group but it isn't me.

Hey, as long as you're up, could you get me a fresh lie? lol

....the South might talk about it, but only after Lincoln first recognized the legality of their acts of secession and confederate sovereignty.

The People didn't need Lincoln to "recognize" anything. You build Lincoln up every chance you get, don't you? Since when did acts of the People become subject to your adaptation of the rules of "Mother May I?"

[Non-Sequitur]

Since when did acts of the People become subject to your adaptation of the rules of "Mother May I?"

Since the people of the United States ratified the Constitution.

[Non-Sequitur]

The People didn't need Lincoln to "recognize" anything.

Apparently they did, since they kept trying so hard for someone, anyone to agree that they were a sovereign nation. Nobody did.