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Meet Your "Moderate," "American" Muslim Neighbors: New Study Shows U.S. Muslims Are Extremists
Debbie Schlussel.com ^ | May 23, 2007 | Debbie Schlussel

Posted on 05/23/2007 7:03:30 AM PDT by GFritsch

For almost six years, we've heard the constant chorus: "Muslims in America are different."

On 9/11, we were told that American Muslims would never commit the attacks like those perpetrated upon 3,000 Americans by 19 foreign Arab Muslims in our midst. The 19 men were different. They "hijacked their religion," we were told.

on 7/7, we were told that European Muslims are different. We were told that American Muslims would never try to blow up subways and train stations here, unlike those in London who did it . . . twice, and those in Madrid who killed far more on their trains.

Poll of American Muslims: Islam is Hazardous to America We were told--and continue to be told--that American Muslims would never continuously riot in the streets, burning hundreds of cars a day, as they've been doing throughout France, going on 3 years, and violently attacking and injuring more than a dozen police per day. American Muslims are different, we're told. They're far more assimilated, far more successfuly financially (as if jihad and Islamism are motivated by finances, not an extremist religion).

Younger Muslims--born and/or raised in America--are more "Westernized" we've been didactically informed. They would never do such a thing. They've watched "The Simpsons" and grown up with Christina Aguilera. Therefore, they'd never want to blow a fellow American up, we've been instructed.

Since 9/11, we've been subject to a virtual echo chamber from the conventional wisdom-ites: that Muslims in America different from their pan-jihadist brothers and sisters around the world--that somehow their American experience is far different, even though their mosques and imams and korans and hadiths preach the same hate against us.

Well, now we've come to find out that Muslims in America are not so different from their co-religionists around the world. In fact, their viewpoints are pretty much the same as that of their religious counterparts around the world, and getting more extreme with age and American upbringing.

The message of the just-released Pew Research Center study on "Muslim Americans" is clear (if you can get beyond the biased press coverage and headlines): America hasn't moderated Islam or its adherents. Islam has made America Muslim residents more extreme, just as with its European counterparts. Wealth and education and opportunity and freedom have done nothing to moderate them.

The title of the study is deceptive: "Muslim Americans: Middle Class and Mostly Mainstream." But while the study shows that most Muslims in America are, indeed, middle-class, they are anything but "Mainstream." That is, unless the mainstream is referring to the mainstream of Islam around the world and not the mainstream of American values.

Islamists, like Ingrid Matteson, president of the extremist Islamic Society of North America, consulted with Pew in conducting this study. But, even with the cosmetics, the numbers and opinions should disturb you. Without the cosmetics, the real numbers are far worse.

Here are the notable results (and, remember, since people lie in polls, the real statistics are likely a lot worse):

American Muslims Support Homicide Bombings

* More than one in four Muslims (or 26%), aged 18-29, said "Suicide Bombing is Justified." 2% percent of them say it can often be justified, 13% say sometimes, and 11% say rarely. Add to that, the 5% don't know/refused to answer this easy, instinctive question, and it's even worse--for a total of 31%--almost a third of young American Muslims, who support homicide bombings. This younger group of Muslims is the most radical, the study found, and it's the largest group of Muslims in America. It is also the future of "America's" Islam.

* 12% of foreign-born Arab Muslims said that "Suicide Bombing Can be Justified Often/Sometimes." That's more than one in ten. 10% of them don't know/refused to answer. That's a total of 22% who apparently support homicide bombings. That's more than one in five and almost one in four. Yup, if you meet an Arab Muslim on the streets of America, it's a likely one in four chance he/she supports homicide bombings.

* 8% of all U.S. Muslims said suicide bombing is justified. Add to that the 9% that don't know/refused to answer, and you get 17%, almost 1 in 5 American Muslims. For all foreign-born U.S. Muslims, 9% support suicide bombings--plus 9% refusing to answer, and it's 18%. For all native-born U.S. Muslims, it's 8% who support the bombings, plus 5% who refused to respond--for a total of 13%. Yup, being born and raised in the U.S. isn't the moderating force it's cracked up to be . . . if you're raised in the Islamic faith.

American Muslims Support Al-Qaeda

So much for the Muslim propaganda slogans about Al-Qaeda not representing Islam and "hijacking the religion." A significant portion of America's Muslims support the group, and it's growing:

* More than one in four American Muslims, aged 18-29, support Al-Qaeda. 7% outright viewed it favorably, plus 19% don't know/refused to answer--for a total of 26%. Yup, more than one in four young Muslims in America supports Qaeda.

* One third of American Muslims age thirty or more support Al-Qaeda. 4% support the group outright, plus the 29% that refused to answer, for a total of 33%. If you can't answer an outright no to this question, you support Al-Qaeda.

* Of all American Muslims, only 58% have a very unfavorable view of Al-Qaeda. 5% of American Muslims admitted to viewing Qaeda favorably and 27% refused to answer or claimed they didn't know. Hmmm . . . 32% or about 1/3 of all American Muslims either openly liking Al-Qaeda or not wanting us to know what they really think (which means they like Qaeda, too).

Muslims Don't Consider Themselves as Americans

* Among those under 30, only one in four--25%--consider themselves Americans first. 60% consider themselves Muslim first, 10% say "both equally," and 5% don't know. Age 30 and over, only 30% say they consider themselves American first, with 41% considering themselves Muslim first. Among total Muslims, 47% think of themselves as Muslim first, not American.

* Only 43% of all American Muslims said "Muslims coming to the U.S. today should adopt American Customs." Among native-born American Muslims, that number drops to 37%.

Most American Muslims Don't Believe Al-Qaeda Perpetrated 9/11 Attacks

Apparently, American Muslims want it both ways. Many of them cheer Al-Qaeda on, yet claim they don't believe Qaeda perpetrated the 9/11 attacks:

* Only 40% of American Muslims believe Arabs carried out the 9/11 attacks. 28% don't believe it, with 32% refusing to answer/don't know. That's a total of 60% who claim it wasn't Qaeda. Among American-born Muslims, it's hardly better. 48% believe Arabs did 9/11. 31% don't believe it, and 21% refuse to answer/don't know, for a total of 52% not believing Arabs committed the attacks.

And there are other serious implications:

The study says that 65% of Muslims are still foreign-born, mostly from the Middle East. Why are we allowing--why have we allowed--so many of those who hate us into this country to spread their hate and reproduce it in large families?

The study shows that even from 2000-2007, 18% of Muslims are still immigrants--significantly up from the 1980s. Why--after 9/11--are we letting one in five Muslims in America in from countries and a religion that hate us? It isn't news to me. But it should be disturbing, nonetheless, that we have a policy of affirmative-action immigration for the religion of 19 hijackers and assorted worldwide beheaders, homicide bombers, and rioters.

But, predictably, this extremism and its implications and suggestions for our immigration policy, for our student visa policy, for other policies that should keep more Muslims out of America is ignored by the press.

Instead, they pretend--as do the makers of this study at Pew who call American Muslims "Mostly Mainstream"--that the study shows Muslims to be "just like us."

The National Public Radio headline: "Pew Study Sees Muslim Americans Assimilating."

Since when is one in four members of a religion supports homicide bombings in America a sign of "assimilation"?

Perhaps when the sister of the homicide bomber grew up learning who Paris Hilton is on FOX News and CNN.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islamic; islamofascist; muslims
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...their mosques and imams and korans and hadiths preach the same hate against us.

Muslims do either one of two things. They either actively participate in terrorist plots and actions or they contribute money to those that will participate.

1 posted on 05/23/2007 7:03:33 AM PDT by GFritsch
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To: GFritsch

“Moderate,” “American” Muslim Neighbors” Listed below:

I’ve listed them above - there is no such thing (for those not paying attention)


2 posted on 05/23/2007 7:10:00 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: GFritsch

Moderate Muslim is an oxymoron, period.


3 posted on 05/23/2007 7:11:30 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: GFritsch
Extremism is the foundation of Islam, that is why all “moderate” Muzzies are considered heretics by the clerics and imams.

Islam is the pox on all our houses.

4 posted on 05/23/2007 7:13:28 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: GFritsch
More than one in four Muslims (or 26%), aged 18-29, said "Suicide Bombing is Justified."

Spread the word. We must stop Mohammedan immigration.

5 posted on 05/23/2007 7:13:50 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: HamiltonJay
Moderate Muzzie = temporarily out of ammo.
6 posted on 05/23/2007 7:14:23 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: GFritsch

Then why does our government continue to provide support for some of the “moderates” in places such as Europe?


7 posted on 05/23/2007 7:14:27 AM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: GFritsch

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1838243/posts?page=10#10


8 posted on 05/23/2007 7:15:29 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: GFritsch
Another bogus poll. THey were asked is suicide bombing justified to defend Islam. What in the world does defend Islam mean? The pertinent question is, is suicide bombing justified to expand the Ummah. Those guys are the enemies.
9 posted on 05/23/2007 7:16:10 AM PDT by DManA
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To: HamiltonJay

KLBJ has a MuSLIME woman on the radio now, and she actually SUPPORTS killing other people. This is crazy.


10 posted on 05/23/2007 7:20:28 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Guns don't kill people. None of my guns ever left the house at night and killed anyone.)
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To: DManA

the only muslims i have met who i don’t completely mistrust are the ones who were just born into it and don’t follow the religion-no one can pick their parents


11 posted on 05/23/2007 7:23:03 AM PDT by steamroller
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To: GFritsch
Were American Nazis prior to World War II more American than they were Nazis?
12 posted on 05/23/2007 7:25:52 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: GFritsch

And I’m guessing that, either way, they won’t be rushing to tell us about it. Even after the fact. I didn’t see willingness to perjure oneself, to protect those known to be engaging in this activity, on the list, but I’m guessing if they don’t mind the idea of suicide bombing, then perjury is not so much an issue. And even if it’s only 25% of American born and a smaller percentage for the more serious issues, that’s still a number of young people and a larger number willing to be their accomplices. Quite an eyeopener, but not necessarily a surprise.


13 posted on 05/23/2007 7:25:58 AM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: GFritsch; Valin

“So much for the Muslim propaganda slogans about Al-Qaeda not representing Islam and “hijacking the religion.”

Al Qaeda (really the larger Muslim Brotherhood, et al) haven’t “hijacked” islam.......they have only re-activated its longstanding covenant against all others. Simple as that.


14 posted on 05/23/2007 7:27:31 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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If they are NOT citizens,

send them home, send them all home.


15 posted on 05/23/2007 7:28:16 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Quote of the week, at least, right there.


16 posted on 05/23/2007 7:31:00 AM PDT by oakcon
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Quote of the week, at least, right there.


17 posted on 05/23/2007 7:31:00 AM PDT by oakcon
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To: Aquinasfan
Spread the word. We must stop Mohammedan immigration.

What to do with the dens of hatred (mosques) that have popped up in our country like bedbugs and head lice?

(Just a little reference there to what our illegal friends carry with them as they crawl across our border.)

And what to do with the millions who are crowding into our cities. How long will it take for Detroit to be renamed? Of course Detroit was in a sorry state before the influx of the muslims.

18 posted on 05/23/2007 7:31:11 AM PDT by GFritsch ('All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved'." -)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

I have never before seen the don’t know category assumed for one of the choices.


19 posted on 05/23/2007 7:35:47 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: GFritsch

A good article on Islime can be read at:

yourarmstoisrael.org

select: “a must read”
pull up: “Article 29/Islam, the Final End Time Beast”
print and save for future reference.


20 posted on 05/23/2007 7:38:34 AM PDT by Lewite (Praise YAHWEH and Proclaim His Wonderful Name! Islam, the end time Beast-the harlot of Babylon.)
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