Illegal immigrants refrain: 'Leaving America is not an option'

AFP ^ | May 20 06:42 PM

[stevie_d_64]

Francisco Gimenez risked his life to get into United States. He is not planning to leave in a hurry. Like many members of Los Angeles' immigrant community, the 27-year-old butcher is skeptical about proposed legislation intended to offer illegal workers a path to citizenship.

Under reforms announced last week, Gimenez would be required to return to Mexico at some point in order to secure the right to work legally in the United States, possibly paying up to 5,000 dollars in fines additionally.

Gimenez fears however that once he leaves America he won't be allowed back in. "I don't really understand that much about the bill, but I'd have to be crazy to go back to Mexico to apply for visa now that I am already in the US," he says. "They wouldn't give me a visa there."

[expatguy]

Snickers bar and a bus ticket to Tijuana.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

[CatoRenasci]

But you are right, it took over a hundred years before the South seriously considered committing to rejoining the rest of the country.

Great for effect, but the South really rejoined the rest of the country with the Spanish-American War. If one incident can be symbolic of that, it would have to be former Confederate general Joe Wheeler returning to the US Army to command a cavalry division - the photo of the aged Wheeler in Army blue being welcomed by his pre-Civil War colleagues reportedly had a profound effect in the South.

[MarkL]

Bless you, welcome, and thank you for what you bring to this country! Those who would destroy this country try to confuse the issue by calling this an immigration problems. It's not. It's a crime problem. The strength of this country comes from legitimate immigrants like yourself and my own grandfather. The "melting pot" is quickly being replaced though, by balkanization, caused by illegal aliens who refuse to "become Americans" and assimilate. I find it interesting that they come here to escape the conditions "at home," but then they bring those conditions right along with them.

Mark

[stevie_d_64]

Clever!

We could make the southern border the DMZ...

“Deportation, Mines, Zot” zone...

[meyer]

Anyone got a plan “B”???

Yes - it involves a military presence and the use of weapons.

[ZULU]

I like your amendment. O.K.

We’ll do it.

Now we just have to convince a bunch of prostitutes in Washington and the special interest groups who pay them for their services that the good of America should come before the pleasures of prostitution.

It will be a hard sell.

[MarkL]

I agree with everything, except for this one bit...

Problem solved. No buses, no detention centers, no massive round-ups.

I think that we should provide free transportation to the border of their choice. Again, paid for by the fines levied on business who have made their profits by breaking our laws.

Mark

[stevie_d_64]

“Step out of the vehicle sir!”

Oh, wait a second...

“Da un paso fuera del vehículo señor!”

This might be required soon...

[Sender]

It WILL create a mad stampede al norte if there is a deal struck. As Mr Gimenez says, ‘you’d have to be crazy’ not to take advantage of the opportunity.

[TexasRepublic]

Bring the troops home. Stick em on the border. Build the fence. Round up every one that doesn’t have a visa, send em home. Shoot the ones that hide.

I say "Amen! and pass the ammunition." It is going to take something radical to turn this country around. If we don't, this country as we have known it will no longer exist within our lifetime.

[oh8eleven]

When ILLEGALS flood the streets demanding 'rights' and we work our *sses off to pay the taxes for their 'benefits' makes me VERY ANGRY!
And they do it carrying the flag of a foreign country too.

[stevie_d_64]

Post of the day!

[ZULU]

O.K.

[stevie_d_64]

Point of the day!

[stevie_d_64]

Thats a good one!!!

[ApplegateRanch]

So, we have to add ‘butcher’, along with drywaller, plasterer, painter, carpenter, roofer, shipyard worker, welder, trucker, plumber, ..., to the list of “low-paying jobs Americans won’t do”?

[phillyfanatic]

Nice confession, huh? Now put La Raza in the mix and you see just how inane this monstrosity is. How in the world will the 12 million, or two million or any illegal go home and be forced to do so? Pelosi says the fine is just too much. The Govt. cannot keep its thumb on Islamofascists but it will keep track of 12-20 million Hispanic illegals. Ah, the love and niceness of compassion.

[MarkL]

To keep "Plan B" from occuring internally is exactly why the mexican government is actively exporting thier peons to the US, as a "pressure valve." Otherwise, there would be a socialist revolution, and the elite oligarchs would lose everything.

Mark

[RobbyS]

Of course, Mexican corruption is the heart of the problem. But the corrupted is routed in the hearts of the Mexican aristocracy. before Independence, Mexico had more, or less, decent government, or at least no worse govered than Spain. After Independence, the locals took over and ran the country like their private estates, with no restraint from abroad. Sort of like the fate of Africa after the end of colonialism. Somehow all the wealth ends up in the hands of a limited number of families. Reformers and revolutionaries simply
shift the wealth from some families to others. As much as I detest the concept of the welfare state, it in association with an expanding economy has some good effects. But where the ruling classes lack any real entrepenural spirit, profits do not get reinvested but is spent. and welfare becomes a dole. Foreign investment is disguised and funneled through the “right persons.” It is a mess.

[TLI]

'Leaving America is not an option'

No it's not an option, it's the law.

Now, if we could just get this administration to enforce the law...