Posted on 05/21/2007 9:14:13 AM PDT by stevie_d_64
Francisco Gimenez risked his life to get into United States. He is not planning to leave in a hurry. Like many members of Los Angeles' immigrant community, the 27-year-old butcher is skeptical about proposed legislation intended to offer illegal workers a path to citizenship.
Under reforms announced last week, Gimenez would be required to return to Mexico at some point in order to secure the right to work legally in the United States, possibly paying up to 5,000 dollars in fines additionally.
Gimenez fears however that once he leaves America he won't be allowed back in. "I don't really understand that much about the bill, but I'd have to be crazy to go back to Mexico to apply for visa now that I am already in the US," he says. "They wouldn't give me a visa there."
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
“For Pete’s sake, would you please just accept my gift of citizenship?”
- T. Kennedy
Or, another -
“Gang members reluctant to accept amnesty...”
The problem is there would be guerrilla warfare, on a scale that would dwarf even Vietnam, and that it would take anywhere from 3-5 generations (60-100 years) before the truly debilitating aspects of Mexican life and culture could be eliminated. I am also unsure whether the Indians of Mexico, a large portion of the population, are capable of making the transition to the modern world.
This always puzzles me, whining about the 5 G's from illegals who are happy to pay megabucks to coyotes every time they come back from a visit home...
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Sounds better to me. How about you, Jose?
Congressman Billybob
All the pathway to citizenship details are just so much window dressing. Long ago when it was first being bandied about I instantly had questions. If the illegal has X number of years to meet requirements such as learning english, maintaining employment for required period, etc.,....What happens at the end of those years if the illegal has not met the requirements? Will they be deported? I do not see that happening. It’s a joke and they know it.
Doesn't that run counter to upholding the Constitution of the United States, and the oath of office sworn by the President and Congress?
Hmmmm?
From a strictly antiseptic analysis, it seems to me that people who condone breaking the laws of the United States should be removed from office. The "I" word should be used but that is too strong for the politically correct crowd.
I choose Plan C, with guards armed to the teeth.
Fine. We'll just SEND you back and you won't have to leave.
oh it’s an option alright. Ever hear of operation wetback?
I agree. Lets just take it over and make it the 51st state.
The US has subdued a foreign nation in just exactly this way once before, as when they took down the Confederate States of America, and sent in Reconstruction teams to make over the South in the American model.
But you are right, it took over a hundred years before the South seriously considered committing to rejoining the rest of the country.
Now that they have, the old Confederate States are now among the most pro-American parts of the country.
how about this for a “plan B”
1.We throw the bums out when we catch them, then bar them form becoming citizens in the future.
2.Fine those who illegally employ them, say $5,000 or $150 (which ever is more) per dollar earned by the illegally employed alien earned.
3.naturally there wold be work for our children and those of us who lack the job skills. the entry level jobs teach independence and help create a sense of accomplishment.
Might as well try to reform Russia. In Mexico. In each case, a revolution gone sour.
They have always been able to find me and tell me to send money!
Still, we might try to come up with some ideas.
I like the ZULU plan for Immigration Reform.
Probably the only thing I might adjust is that I would hand over business (seized for hiring illegals) to prospective small business owners who will contractually agree not to hire illegals. Like, when the govt seizes property from criminals and puts it up for sale....do so for seized businesses.
But, I could live with Zulu’s plan regarding businesses
Now, this is real reform
I don't care who wrote this, but it amuses to see the usual transparent attempt to elicit sympathy for the criminals in this type of story.
Criminals of all types risk their lives every day; indeed, many lose their lives every day in pursuing their activities.
I couldn't care less.
That and other proactive options should be examined carefully. A good offense is a good defense.
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