Posted on 05/21/2007 9:14:13 AM PDT by stevie_d_64
Francisco Gimenez risked his life to get into United States. He is not planning to leave in a hurry. Like many members of Los Angeles' immigrant community, the 27-year-old butcher is skeptical about proposed legislation intended to offer illegal workers a path to citizenship.
Under reforms announced last week, Gimenez would be required to return to Mexico at some point in order to secure the right to work legally in the United States, possibly paying up to 5,000 dollars in fines additionally.
Gimenez fears however that once he leaves America he won't be allowed back in. "I don't really understand that much about the bill, but I'd have to be crazy to go back to Mexico to apply for visa now that I am already in the US," he says. "They wouldn't give me a visa there."
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
In other words, screw your laws!
We should fly them back first class to the capital city of their nation of origin and deduct the costs from that nation’s yearly ‘foreign aid’. If we did that, I can guarantee it would be Mexico building the fence.
I think it’s definitely an option.
“Told the brain surgeon answering the phone at my Stalinist Congress Creature’s local office that, as an immigrant, I object strenuously to amnesty, which is exactly what this bill is and attempting to cast it as anything other than amnesty is dishonest, and an insult to my and the rest of America’s intelligence.
Citizenship is a privilege to be earned, not a right to be expected. And residency is a privilege conferred by the US and is not a privilege to be stolen.
The US owes me nothing. It grants me, as an immigrant, through it’s Constitution, the privilege of living here and allowing me to pursue the American dream. And should I earn the privilege, to become a US citizenship. And this right cannot be usurped, or demanded or expected. And it sure as hell cannot be stolen.
One of the proudest days of my life was when I stood at the citizenship ceremony, placed my hand over my heart and recited the Pledge of Allegiance as an American. I’m an American, and I fly my flag with pride and it is nothing short of despicable for someone, in this country illegally, to march in protest in MY country, demanding rights to which they are NOT entitled, all the while waving a Mexican, or an Honduran, or a South African, Ethiopian or any other flag.
They have no commitment or love for this, MY, country. This country is more than a meal ticket. It is the “shining city on the hill” that Ronald Reagan described. It is NOT the shining soup kitchen on the hill.
“And so, my fellow Americans ... ask not what your country can do for you ... ask what you can do for your country.”
39 posted on 05/18/2007 6:17:19 PM PDT by sofaman
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1836074/posts?page=39#39
Deportation!
I agree 100%. No Amnesty and no entitlement. This immigrations bill is a FARCE! Enforce existing laws, damn it!
Let’s see...
Say I rob a bank, then get caught, and say “going to jail is not an option”.
Or, I get pulled over for speeding, and say “paying this fine is not an option”...
That's exactly right! They THINK they deserve anything they want. It seems so do our elected officials!
When ILLEGALS flood the streets demanding 'rights' and we work our *sses off to pay the taxes for their 'benefits' makes me VERY ANGRY!
Don’t worry, Senor Gimenez, we will never enforce the $5,000 fee or require you to go back to Mexico.
The problem is really with John Q. American Citizen WHO HIRES THEM. If the hiring stopped, there’d be no incentive to come.
Yes.
Yes.
1) Build the wall - completely
2) Put businesses which knowlingly hire illegal invaders out of business, and liquidate their assets to pay for the cost of apprehending detaining an repatriating these people
3) Cut off all Federal Aid to any state or local juridiction which refuses to cooperate with the Feds in removing these people. If that doesn’t work, declare said areas in open rebellion against the authority of the federal government and send in occupying forces
4) Put out of business any organizations which provide “asylum” to illegals and use their liquidted assets to pya for apprenhension, detention and repatriation of these criminals
5) Cut off all social services to illegals
6) Present a bill for services rendered in apprending, detaining and repatriating these criminals to their home governments. If they refuse to pay, take it out of their assets or any humaitarian or military aid we provide to them.
Problem solved. No buses, no detention centers, no massive round-ups.
Yes, they need to crack down with stiffer penalties. No question.
Yeah, I got a Plan B.
Carpet bomb the southern border.
OK, this whole thing is a run-up to forming a "North American Union" of The US, Canada, & Mexico. One of the stated objectives of which is to "raise the standard of living" in Mexico. Since Mexico has an economy which has the ultra rich old aristocratic families on top and the peons on the bottom and virtually no middle class. Raising their SoL would have us taking the lions share of Mexico's poor in and give them work and provide for there care. That is Plan "A"
The only problem with plan A is that the Mexican workers in the US send billions home to support the same, two tiered, corrupt system. We provide jobs, they work their butts off and the cream floats up to the aristocracy.
Plan "B", take over management of the country, depose the aristocrats, undertake large scale land reform, and let the peons benefit from their own labor in their own country. The only problem I see with plan B is it looks like it comes page for page out of the Marxist play book, and has NEVER worked in practice.
Plan "C", put the money into a 3000 miles fence, the best that money can buy and let Mexico solve Mexico's problems.
Them is your choices buddy.
Regards,
GtG
Leaving the US is an option - if all the other options are much more harsh.
Mexico, by its geographical location (temperate to subtropical to tropical climate, high desert to coastal Mediterranean localities, jungle to desert landforms) has a sufficiently wide diversity to appeal to virtually everybody, and has natural resources to match. So why are the Mexicans living a Third-World existence?
A history of graft and corruption in politics; an economic system that tends to form into two classes, the very poor and disenfranchised, who have little access to property ownership, and the very wealthy, who have no interest in changing the status quo; and tolerance for a degree of lawlessness that could only be compared to the days of the Wild West in the 19th Century. Plus an internal racism and xenophobia that is only matched in the Middle East or Africa.
I see no other course of action, than to invade Mexico, establish occupational rule, and impose an entirely new social order. Then, as each Mexican province achieves various benchmarks (literacy in English, workable legal system compatible with US constitutional law, and decent infrastructure development), allow the citizens of that province to petition to become an additional state in the United States.
Wouldn’t have to leave the US - the US goes to Mexico.
Can't argue with that!
Mexico is in America.
Back you go.
Leaving the U.S.?
A certainty, it's just a matter of time. The "leadership" may be susceptible to pressure, but 100 million American legal citizens and residents are not.
See ya, Pedro...
To all Mexican legal residents: welcome. Join us?
Bring the troops home. Stick em on the border. Build the fence. Round up every one that doesn’t have a visa, send em home. Shoot the ones that hide.
Simple enough.
I like the idea of illegals who don't leave being sentenced to something like 3-5 years at hard labor, which would include building the border fence and working to pick fruit and vegetables...the very stuff migrant farmers used to do. And, at the end of their sentence, send them back without possiblity of re-entry with some sort of permanent identifying mark so if they come back it, everyone will know they're illegals subject to immediate arrest.
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