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To: GrandEagle

First, you have no idea whom I am supporting for the Republican nomination, so please desist from making assumptions.

Secondly, why won’t you bite? Why will no one who has stated there is a moral equivalency between the administration of a liberal Republican and a liberal Rat willing to demonstrate that by naming names?

If you’re here on FR, you have some political knowledge. You know the types of people the parties gravitate to for leadership positions.

Let’s do this: just comment on Secretary of Defense.

I believe the Rat SECDEF will be someone like Murtha, because the Rats will have to give a hat-tip to their anti-war moonbat base.

The Republican SECDEF would be someone like Duncan Hunter, Tommy Franks, maybe even Joe Lieberman.

Care to provide me with your observations on how those nominations might work out for the country? I am genuinely interested.

Finally, I am not insisting that you or anyone else settle for “nothing.” I advocate a robust primary process.

However, I challenge the notion that there is something wrong with wanting the Republican Party to win the general election. You have criticized the desire to win the general election: on what basis? Again, I am genuinely interested.

Given a choice between handing power to the Rats or to the Republicans-—and that IS our choice on Election Day-—one needs to do more than dismiss them as “no different.”

*Show me.*

I agree with you that generally the president will appoint people who agree with him (though not always, because, especially in the lower tier appointments, the party has more to say about appointments than the president).

That said, again, you have enough knowledge of where the Rat candidates are on the war and where the Republican candidates are to make some guesses on Secretary of Defense, Homeland Security, and the like.

I really would like to hear how you see that shaking out.


44 posted on 05/17/2007 9:45:32 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent (HONK IF YOU'VE SACKED TROY SMITH.)
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To: wouldntbprudent
Why will no one who has stated there is a moral equivalency between the administration of a liberal Republican and a liberal Rat willing to demonstrate that by naming names?

In the short term, a liberal R would be a little better than a D of any kind. However, it would be foolish to look at the short term only.

If we all toe the party line and elect a liberal R, the RNC will interpret this as approval of the leftward slant in the GOP, and it would be a logical conclusion for them to come to. However, that conclusion would lead to more R candidates and, pretty soon, there'd be no party to represent us as the GOP would become a centrist party which would, in a short time, undo everything that social conservatives have worked for for 30 years. Do not think for a second we will sit by and allow this to happen just so we can get an R in the oval office.

My loyalty is not to any political party. It is first to God and second to Country.
49 posted on 05/17/2007 9:56:17 PM PDT by JamesP81 (Isaiah 10:1 - "Woe to those who enact evil statutes")
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To: wouldntbprudent
However, I challenge the notion that there is something wrong with wanting the Republican Party to win the general election. You have criticized the desire to win the general election: on what basis? Again, I am genuinely interested.

I suppose this is where we differ. If the Republicans nominate Rudy - they no longer reflect my beliefs.

Given a choice between handing power to the Rats or to the Republicans-—and that IS our choice on Election Day-—one needs to do more than dismiss them as “no difference"
I don't believe I've "dismissed" them as no different. Just listen to Rudy's positions - they are nearly the same as the Dems.
I suppose we differ here again. I would rather have a known enemy of our Republic, than a stealthy enemy.
There is a far better chance of controlling a Dem with a Rep congress (granted we would have to retake one of the houses) than we have controlling a liberal Republican with either a Rep OR a Dem congress.

I'm not going into names - because I have no idea who they would nominate. I have NEVER called that one right.

50 posted on 05/17/2007 9:57:11 PM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: wouldntbprudent; GrandEagle
"..you have enough knowledge of where the Rat candidates are on the war and where the Republican candidates are to make some guesses on Secretary of Defense, Homeland Security, and the like."

Dear wouldntbprudent; you have a lot of catching up to do.

FYI; GrandEagle is correct in stating there is no substantial difference. This can be shown by simply looking at the people the POTUS has chosen for his cabinet, and lo and behold; they are all the same kind: Globalists. One-worlders. Socialists. Promoters of "democracy" all over the world. Very eager to interfere in the internal affairs of other nations, all the while working to flush our own country.

Doesn't matter which "flavor" the POTUS, they always promote the same kind of folks to powerful positions.

Is there a way out of this mess? Yes. We need to educate ourselves, then others, and hopefully find conservative candidates we can support. Then get others who are like-minded to help us support them.

Not Rudy McRomney.

Furthermore, your tactic of voting for the least harmful candidate, and "planning the next revolution" will not work for the simple reason that when liberal Republicans gain power, it breeds more liberal Republicans.

Too many people such as yourself are getting their "education" from the MSM.

71 posted on 05/18/2007 6:09:43 AM PDT by Designer (growing weary of this already)
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