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To: Clemenza

No such thing as an agnostic. If you believe in God, you are a theist. If you don’t, you are an atheist. If you want to waffle you claim to be an agnostic, but it won’t work. If you aren’t sure, then you don’t have a belief and you are therefore an atheist.


21 posted on 05/13/2007 7:58:21 PM PDT by tickmeister (tickmeister)
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To: tickmeister
I am open to the idea of a deity.

I have suspicions that a deity exists, but have no concrete proof to verify it mentally.

I will continue to question and explore questions divinity, albeit not my own.

22 posted on 05/13/2007 8:00:30 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: tickmeister

agnosticism makes the most logical sense. the inability to prove God doesn’t exist isn’t proof that God does exist, and vice-versa. we can neither prove that God exists or that he does not exist.

one can never say one is ‘certain of God’s existence’, but it can always be said one is ‘certain of their faith in God’s existence’.

one can have faith and believe, but this is not in-and-of-itself rational. if there was proof God existed, what would be the need for faith or belief? the existence of faith and belief imply that there is reasonable doubt.

a great error is made by theists in claiming certainty because it belittles the devotion that faith requires.

but, one can make a rational decision that faith or belief is a necessary component of the human condition and that therefore one should have some kind of faith in the unknown and unprovable.


31 posted on 05/13/2007 8:23:25 PM PDT by Swordfished
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