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To: buckeye27
why do you conclude that a defeat would win them anymore votes than a drawn out fight for victory...

I don't "conclude" anything except this: if nothing changes in Iraq, the GOP is going to be wiped out in 2008. Hillary - or Obama, or whoever the Dems nominate - will be president and the Dems will have huge majorities in Congress.

And with the Dems in power, they might be able to rig things so the GOP never comes back. For example, an immigration bill that allows tens of millions of Mexicans and Central Americans to register as voters. Goodbye, Republican fortunes in the American Southwest.

57 posted on 05/09/2007 6:58:56 PM PDT by freedomdefender
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To: freedomdefender

Even if soemthing dose happen in Iraq do you really think the MSM is going to cover it?


58 posted on 05/09/2007 7:00:32 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade
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To: freedomdefender; kellynla

Posted on the Capital News site on C-SPAN:

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/09/iraq-meeting/

NBC: 11 Republicans Berate Bush Over Iraq In Private White House Meeting


61 posted on 05/09/2007 7:02:29 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: freedomdefender

Think your prediction through. Is there any possible upside for Republicans agreeing to withdraw? It will make the traitors look right. And, why are you assuming that September won’t bring good news, anyway? Who leaked this meting and its contents to the press, anyway?


115 posted on 05/09/2007 7:32:00 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: freedomdefender
...if nothing changes in Iraq, the GOP is going to be wiped out in 2008...

I agree with you. I wish I didn't, but I do. But even if things change for the better in Iraq (and there are compelling stories to indicate this is happening now), the Bush administration has to get this news out to the general public, by going over the head of the mainstream media, like Reagan did. Bush has not used the bully pulpit anywhere near as effectively as he could.

Perception is everything. And if the American public doesn't believe things are getting better in Iraq, there will be a Democrat in the White House in 2009.

260 posted on 05/10/2007 5:52:26 AM PDT by IndyTiger
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To: freedomdefender

I don’t care. If taking the chance of the GOP being wiped out is what it takes to not give our enemy the country of Iraq on a Silver Platter, than that is what we will do.

Saving the World, and protecting our country from destruction, is more important than winning the next election.

Anyway, if we do what the DEmocrats want to do in September, the GOP will be routed next year, because Bush, and the GOP WILL BE BLAMED for the hell that follows. That is a certainty.

The Democrats don’t care how many people die, they will end up in greater power.

The Republicans better care, because either way we are screwed. The only way Republicans win is if we finish the job in Iraq or get it through the thick skulls of America that our “sacrifice” in Iraq has been minimal compared to the tremendous benefits it has had, like minimizing the number of terrorists trying to do things like the six guys invading Fort Dix.

If the American People think Iraq is bad (which for us, it isn’t, we lose more lives on the highways, and spend more money on junk food), wait until they see an Al-Qaeda-supporting, Iran-loving Iraq crush all of our allies in its borders, and then set out for Saudi Arabia.

There won’t be a leader in the Middle east that will even TAKE A CALL from us after that. Until we put a half-million men in Jordon, assuming they don’t just surrender instead, in which case we’ll spend 2009 debating whether we should send troops to help save Israel, or just let them fight it out with their own nuclear weapons.


263 posted on 05/10/2007 5:58:35 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: freedomdefender
if nothing changes in Iraq, the GOP is going to be wiped out in 2008. Hillary - or Obama, or whoever the Dems nominate - will be president and the Dems will have huge majorities in Congress.

I think that you may be correct. There are no easy solutions. The President's goal of a secular and democratic Iraq cannot be met in time. Maybe the best that can be hoped for is for Israel to preemptively attack Iran's nuke sites. Iran would retaliate and we could "redeploy," strike Iran, and then get out of town.

384 posted on 05/10/2007 9:57:45 AM PDT by outofstyle
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