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Sperm donor to lesbian couple ordered to pay support
AP via timesunion.com ^ | May 9, 2007 | Mark Scolforo

Posted on 05/09/2007 3:49:01 PM PDT by jmyrlefuller

A sperm donor who helped a lesbian couple conceive two children is liable for child support under a state appeals-court ruling that a legal expert believes might be the first of its kind.

A Superior Court panel last week ordered a Dauphin County judge to establish how much Carl L. Frampton Jr. would have to pay to the birth mother of an 8-year-old boy and 7-year-old girl.

"I'm unaware of any other state appellate court that has found that a child has, simultaneously, three adults who are financially obligated to the child's support and are also entitled to visitation," said New York Law School professor Arthur S. Leonard, an expert on sexuality and the law.

But Frampton, 60, of Indiana, Pa., died suddenly of a stroke in March, leaving lawyers involved in the case with different theories about how his death may affect the precedent-setting case.

Jodilynn Jacob, 33, and Jennifer Lee Shultz-Jacob, 48, moved in together as a couple in 1996, and were granted a civil-union license in Vermont in 2002. In addition to conceiving the two children with the help of Frampton -- a longtime friend of Shultz-Jacob's -- Jacob also adopted her brother's two older children, now 12 and 13

But the women's relationship fell apart, and Jacob and the children moved out of their Dillsburg home in February 2006.

Shortly afterward, a court awarded her about $1,000 a month in support from Shultz-Jacob. Shultz-Jacob later lost an effort to have the court force Frampton to contribute support -- a decision that the Superior Court overturned April 30.

Jacob, who now lives in Harrisburg, said Frampton provided some financial support over the years and gradually took a greater interest in the children.

"Part of the decision came down because he was so involved with them," Jacob said Wednesday. "It wasn't that he went to the (sperm) bank and that was it. They called him Papa."

The process was very informal -- Jacob was inseminated at home.

Lori Andrews, a Chicago-Kent College of Law professor with expertise in reproductive technology, said as many as five people could claim some parental status toward a single child if its conception involved a surrogate mother, an egg donor, a sperm donor and the parents who raise the child.

"The courts are beginning to find increased rights for all the parties involved," she said. "Most states have adoption laws that go dozens of pages, and we see very few laws with a comprehensive approach to reproductive technology."

In his written opinion requiring Frampton to help pay for the child's support, Superior Court Judge John T.J. Kelly Jr. noted that Frampton spent thousands of dollars on the children, including purchases of toys and clothing.

"Such constant and attentive solicitude seems widely at variance with the support court's characterization of (him) having 'played a minimal role in raising and supporting' the children," Kelly said.

The children knew he was their biological father and attended his funeral, but Frampton opposed the effort to compel support from him.

"We made the argument that, according to Pennsylvania law as it stands, there can really only be two adult individuals that can be held liable for support in a child-custody case," said Frampton's lawyer, Matthew Aaron Smith.

Shultz-Jacob's lawyer, Heather Z. Reynosa, wants Frampton's support obligation to be made retroactive to when Jacob first filed for support. Frampton's Social Security survivor benefits may also help reduce Shultz-Jacob's monthly obligation.

It's unclear how the child-support guidelines, which assume two parents, will be adapted to account for three parents.

"That's what's going to be interesting, because there's not a whole lot of guidance out there," Reynosa said.

The state Supreme Court is currently considering a similar case, in which a sperm donor wants to enforce a promise made by the mother that he would not have to be involved in the child's life. That biological father was ordered to pay $1,520 in monthly support.

About two-thirds of states have adopted versions of the Uniform Parentage Act that can shield sperm donors from being forced to assume parenting responsibilities. Pennsylvania has no such law.


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To: TYVets
My guess is that most of us are here today because someone was inseminated at home

Or in the back seat; or at the beach; or on vacation; or in the honeymoon suite; or....

61 posted on 05/09/2007 5:22:04 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: manic4organic

Do you feel like I do huh?


62 posted on 05/09/2007 5:24:41 PM PDT by doodad
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To: jmyrlefuller

Sounds like a strong argument for a septic tank and a subscription to Penthouse magazine.


63 posted on 05/09/2007 5:26:49 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: jmyrlefuller

For those that have donated it is time to leave.


64 posted on 05/09/2007 5:33:50 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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To: jmyrlefuller

I have said in this forum before that as long as the woman has all of the choice over the disposition of an embryo, then the sperm donor (regardless of mechanism) should have no obligations. Prospective fatherhood becomes a contract with disparate cancellation privileges and should not be enforced.

This case is an example of the tyrannical trashing of property rights that can result.


65 posted on 05/09/2007 5:34:22 PM PDT by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find.)
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To: jmyrlefuller

Oops! All those Gay-Loving books used by the Teachers’ Union to indoctrinate, er educate, little kids in gov’ment skools will have to be re-written and re-titled. How about, “Sally has Two Mommies and One Daddy who Pays Money”...


66 posted on 05/09/2007 5:39:09 PM PDT by hardworking (The biggest problem we have is the lack of term limits in the U.S. Senate.)
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To: jmyrlefuller
"That's what's going to be interesting, because there's not a whole lot of guidance out there," Reynosa said.

How about a little common sense then?

67 posted on 05/09/2007 5:45:27 PM PDT by gotribe ( I can find no warrant for such an appropriation in the Constitution... - Grover Cleveland.)
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To: jmyrlefuller

And of course, there’s the child who asked for none of this.

Despite the contradiction to Political Correctness, there IS something to be said for the natural family which unto itself is NOT an attack against those who choose other lifestyles. The ‘alternate’ family will forever be the one that is the anomaly not unlike water flowing up a hill. That said, there are numerous examples of sisters, aunts, grandparents, etc. successfully raising children, but factory based fertilization supporting the interests of the ‘alternate’ family will no doubt suffer from it’s inability to become something that is otherwise exclusive to natural families.

Homosexuals ask to be accepted and understood. Are homosexuals willing to accept and understand the concerns of others?


68 posted on 05/09/2007 5:46:13 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: jmyrlefuller

hoist on your own petard...

or something like that...

if only he were allowed to wed his lesbian lover... er ... nevermind.

teeman


69 posted on 05/09/2007 5:50:24 PM PDT by teeman8r ( (optional, printed after your name on post):)
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To: jmyrlefuller
In his written opinion requiring Frampton to help pay for the child's support, Superior Court Judge John T.J. Kelly Jr. noted that Frampton spent thousands of dollars on the children, including purchases of toys and clothing.

Proof positive that in the system of American "jurisprudence," no good deed need go unpunished.

70 posted on 05/09/2007 6:12:02 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: jmyrlefuller

LOL

The turkey baster confessed!


71 posted on 05/09/2007 6:13:41 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: jmyrlefuller

finally some recognition that fathering a kid is serious business


72 posted on 05/09/2007 6:16:02 PM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: jmyrlefuller
Always, always be careful which digit(s) or appendage(s) you stick into that hole in the dyke. ;)
73 posted on 05/09/2007 6:27:34 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Proudly keeping one iron boot on the necks of libertarian faux 'conservatives' since 1958!")
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To: Puddleglum

Well, yeah, if you’re white.


74 posted on 05/09/2007 6:28:17 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: jmyrlefuller

“Shultz-Jacob’s lawyer, Heather Z. Reynosa, wants Frampton’s support obligation to be made retroactive to when Jacob first filed for support. Frampton’s Social Security survivor benefits may also help reduce Shultz-Jacob’s monthly obligation.”

So, if I am understanding this, WE, the taxpayers, are going to be paying for these children. They are going after survivor benefits from the deceased “donor’s” social security. This goes through college for these children. The “other woman” wants her liability reduced by his SS benefits. Oh, goodie!!


75 posted on 05/09/2007 7:04:47 PM PDT by I_be_tc
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To: BenLurkin

I wont’t post the story here, but it is a must read -— http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:CVw86ptEyEMJ:www.drspock.com/faq/0,1511,9257,00.html+inseminate+turkey+baster&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=11&gl=us


76 posted on 05/09/2007 7:21:42 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Puddleglum

Exactly. When a man decides to “donate” his sperm, by whatever means, natural or otherwise, in whatever legal setting, he knows he is potentially creating a human being. IMO, he is responsible for that child as much as the woman is responsible for contributing the ovum. The two of them are the real parents, regardless of what laws or promises were made. It is HIS child. When you start squirting your sperm around, please realize you will have to take responsibility for it sooner or later.


77 posted on 05/09/2007 7:27:39 PM PDT by baa39
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To: Sleeping Beauty
Sperm donor to lesbian couple ordered to pay support>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Uh oh. There goes the sperm bank.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I am going down there first thing in the morning and retrieving all 15 gallons I have deposited.

78 posted on 05/09/2007 8:02:14 PM PDT by Candor7
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To: BenLurkin

I assume most mothers are inseminated at home, don’t you?


79 posted on 05/09/2007 8:18:00 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Rudy. Hillary. Romney. Obama. No way. The Presidency is NOT a Coronation.)
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To: jmyrlefuller

Guys, avoid those lesbians with turkey basters.


80 posted on 05/09/2007 8:20:34 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Election Math For Dummies: GOP รท Rudi = Hillary)
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