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Can Fred Thompson Fill the GOP's Vacuum?
Real Clear Politics ^ | May 9, 2007

Posted on 05/09/2007 2:31:43 PM PDT by bd476

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To: WestSylvanian; RatsDawg
Oh, please. Look if Romney gets the nomination, I'll vote for him, but I won't be happy about it -- NOT because he's like the super-successful high school guy I envy, but because he's BETRAYED in very fundamental ways principles that I think ALL Republicans should embrace because they're the only things that will keep us a prosperous nation of responsible, free individuals.

--Government-mandated health insurance "without raising taxes!" *rolls eyes*

--His office endorsing "Gay Youth Pride Day," for teenagers! The "gay" part is bad enough, but even THINKING that the governor's office has any role at all in the declared sexual orientation of minors, is something more than audacious. It's a betrayal.

--A quote I can produce for you if you want, where he basically says that working with environmentalists doesn't have to mean hurting economic growth or businesses. It's not just that what he said is pure manure, it's that self-serving platitudes like that doozy help environmentalists do more harm! Republicans need to fight back with truth, not acquiesque to environmentalist power grabs by pretending it's progress.

No, the reason I don't trust Romney is because of thing's he's DONE -- not what I think he'll do. Your "envy" angle is more to shield your own inadequacies of argument in Romney's favor, his success at reducing budgets notwithstanding.

61 posted on 05/09/2007 6:59:51 PM PDT by Finny (God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
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To: Always Right

“If Hunter could fill the void, it would already be filled.”

His problem is his record as a big spender. I, for one, DO NOT want another big spender leading us. I do like him for Secretary of Defense though.


62 posted on 05/09/2007 6:59:55 PM PDT by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: Politicalmom

Wasn’t it in one of your posts that Fred’s acting job was mentioned? I was addressing that.

Duncan Hunter had a law practice in San Diego prior to seving in the Congress. He also served as an Army Ranger in the Vietnam war.


63 posted on 05/09/2007 7:00:35 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( on the cutting edge,)
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To: bd476

Speaking of GOP vacuums, Giuliani SUCKS!


64 posted on 05/09/2007 7:00:57 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: arasina; Politicalmom

LOL. I’d never heard of a Dyson. Apparently they suck the best, huh? I’m partial to the 8lb Oreck upright.


65 posted on 05/09/2007 7:02:59 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant
I’d never heard of a Dyson. Apparently they suck the best, huh?

They do. I have a Dyson and I will never buy another brand of Vacuum cleaner. You can't argue with good design and nothing else comes close.

66 posted on 05/09/2007 7:04:44 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Spiff

Well, my wife is the one who vacuums. So I’ll pass that on.


67 posted on 05/09/2007 7:06:43 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

They truly are unbelievable. You can take a room that has been freshly vacuumed by another brand, and it will still fill most of the canister. Even people who are obsessive about vacuuming because of allergies say that the amount of gunk a Dyson gets out is amazing.


68 posted on 05/09/2007 7:08:34 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Conservatives want freedom. Republicans want power.)
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To: pissant
“I come to Thompson threads to convert folks to DH fans.”




Some of us Thompson fans already considered DH and were forced to look elsewhere due to his record as a big spender. I want a leader who will steer a course AWAY from big government conservatism back toward Goldwater/Reagan limited government conservatism. In short, I am looking for a “FREDERALIST” candidate. (Ron Paul is even stronger on this issue that FDT, but he is a little naive in the area of foreign policy)

69 posted on 05/09/2007 7:08:37 PM PDT by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: Politicalmom

With all the free air time given to Fred Thompson(again tonight on FOX!) and on radio, it is amazing that people even know there are other candidates, thanks to the black out on them by the MSM. If this isn’t blatant media manipulation, I don’t know what it is. This, alone, is enough to put a person off on Fred. If they were ignoring your candidate, how would you feel? Be honest, now.


70 posted on 05/09/2007 7:09:02 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( on the cutting edge,)
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To: Politicalmom; Spiff

You and Spiff oughta be on their payroll. LOL


71 posted on 05/09/2007 7:09:51 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Spiff

Ok, you win. He sucks more than any Dyson.


72 posted on 05/09/2007 7:09:57 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Conservatives want freedom. Republicans want power.)
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To: Paperdoll

You have an amazing entitlement mentality.

Thompson has JOBS and is clever enough to make them ones that get him closer to his goal.

Completely admirable.


73 posted on 05/09/2007 7:11:07 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Conservatives want freedom. Republicans want power.)
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To: rob777

Hunter a big spender? I see you’ve bought into some myths. There is only two areas that Hunter wants to increase spending on and has consistently voted to do so. Border security and the Military. No one is more qualified to be CIC than this wise man.


74 posted on 05/09/2007 7:12:45 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Paperdoll
“The Republican field of fine candidates is in no way suffering from a vacuum.”




I disagree. The only serious limited government proponent in the race now is Ron Paul and he is a little to naive on foreign policy. Fred is the only one who brings the “total package”.

75 posted on 05/09/2007 7:12:57 PM PDT by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: Spiff; pissant
They do. I have a Dyson and I will never buy another brand of Vacuum cleaner.

Psst! (whisper this as an aside since it's off topic and may upset FOFs*) Dysons don't use vacuum technology, but cyclonic.

I have one. Definitely worth the big bucks.



*FOFS = Fans of Fred

76 posted on 05/09/2007 7:15:04 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: arasina

You and PoMom, I can understand. But Spiff walking around in his Mrs. Cleaver apron vacuuming is too much to bear.


77 posted on 05/09/2007 7:17:08 PM PDT by pissant
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To: rob777

>Some of us Thompson fans already considered DH and were forced to look elsewhere due to his record as a big spender.<

You Fred-heads are always calling Rep. Hunter a big spender, but you never answer when asked what he spent so recklessly upon.
If you call the border fence in San Diego, and the military build up he did after Clinton diminished our armed forces and equipment, I would NOT say that is reckless spending, would you? After all, that is what government is meant to do - defend the country.
What else can you list, please?


78 posted on 05/09/2007 7:17:49 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( on the cutting edge,)
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To: pissant
“Hunter a big spender? I see you’ve bought into some myths. There is only two areas that Hunter wants to increase spending on and has consistently voted to do so. Border security and the Military.”




No, that is not a myth and there are a LOT of areas in which he voted to increase spending. His is not a record I can support. From the Club for Growth:

YES on No Child Left Behind YES on Sarbanes-Oxley YES on the 2003 Medicare Drug Benefit YES on 2005 Highway Bill Hunter also went 0 for 19 on the Flake anti-pork amendments.

Despite being a member of the Republican Study Committee, Hunter frequently votes NO on their fiscally conservative annual budgets (2006, 2005, 2003...)

49% on the 2005 Club for Growth scorecard. That places him 187th within the House GOP conference, out of roughly 230 members.

National Taxpayers Union shows a more telling trend. He was strong in the early 1990s, getting “B’s” and one “A”, but as time went by, like most politicians, his score dropped. For the past few years, he’s been getting “C’s”.

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And as bad as things are on the budget front, they’re about to get a whole lot worse because of a pending nightmare that Duncan Hunter — supposed tough guy, supposed truth-teller, supposed fiscal conservative — has chosen to ignore.

... the single worst problem facing this country in coming years, with the possible exception of nuclear terrorism, is dealing with the massive fiscal impact of baby boomers retiring. As we slowly transition from a nation where there are 4 working adults for every adult getting Social Security and Medicare to a nation where that ratio is 2 to 1, we will face an incredible fiscal squeeze.

As a veteran member of Congress, Duncan Hunter knows this. He’s heard the warnings, seen the bipartisan studies. So what did this self-declared fiscal conservative do in 2003? He voted to make the problem much, much, much worse by extending prescription drug benefits to seniors, three-quarters of whom already have coverage. The money that was saved by all the triumphant stands he claims to have taken is infinitesimal compared to the staggering long-term national debt he helped add with this one vote, which was tantamount to civic arson.

79 posted on 05/09/2007 7:29:01 PM PDT by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: Paperdoll
“You Fred-heads are always calling Rep. Hunter a big spender, but you never answer when asked what he spent so recklessly upon.”




See my answer to pissant. BTW, this is an answer that I have given on numerous occasions.

80 posted on 05/09/2007 7:31:23 PM PDT by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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