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STOP RUDY NOW News & Information Thread
jedward | 05/09/2007 | jedward

Posted on 05/09/2007 12:10:40 PM PDT by jedward


This thread is designed for News & Information Posts relating to the efforts of Conservatives working together in a Grassroots effort to prevent Rudy Giuliani from getting the Republican Presidential Party Nomination.
 

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; elections; giuliani; giulianitruthfile; rudy
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To: dixiechick2000

Be sure you keep track of all of them, k?


301 posted on 05/09/2007 11:41:47 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Lamb of God, you take away the sins of the world. Have mercy on us, and grant us Your peace.)
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To: dixiechick2000
Look! A donut!!

302 posted on 05/09/2007 11:42:36 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: La Enchiladita; Deb

VERY lame.


303 posted on 05/09/2007 11:43:49 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: Liz

>> It’s a stupid myth believed by stupid people.......The belief that Giuliani is the only candidate who can beat Hillary.......... ranks right up there with belief in Bigfoot.


.........along with crop circles, and peace in the Middle East.......<<

I have a hard time seeing Hillary as the most threatening Democratic candidate - you don’t even see incumbent Presidents elected with 50% negatives much less first timers.

Rudy , with policies not that different from Hillary, is more dangerous because he lacks her high negatives and shares her main advantage - enormous fund raising. With everybody rejecting public financing you can’t just limp into the general - you need a giant stash.

Add in the front loaded primaries this election the money may be a bigger factor than ever before.

The problem for conservatives is that not one of the front runners who can raise that kind of money is actually gonna represent conservatives.

We need a break.


304 posted on 05/10/2007 12:03:09 AM PDT by gondramB (God only has ten rules, uncle Hank, and he has a much bigger house.)
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To: Deb

“Hannity is 1. A Conservative Republican.”

Wrong.

He is a ratings whore who placed all of his eggs in the partisan republican basket. He is a cosmetic conservative and also slave to political correctness....a total lightweight, but (admittedly) usually chooses to support and showcase whatever is popular with Conservatives. A decent guy, with the gift of gab and a very limited repertoire.

But he jumped on Giuliani’s bandwagon as soon as it appeared and now he’s stuck with supporting this liberal.


305 posted on 05/10/2007 12:12:15 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: gondramB

“....shares her main advantage - enormous fund raising.”

A lot of that money is Democrat money in drag.....they’re plenty nervous about hilliary and don’t see obama as a real possibility so they’re hedging their bet.......they would be quite satisfied if not happy with rudee as prez if hilliary loses


306 posted on 05/10/2007 12:20:09 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Deb
Where's eschoir, dammit?

Last I heard, he was with your other hero, Mojo.

307 posted on 05/10/2007 12:25:34 AM PDT by BykrBayb (May the way of the hero lead to the triforce! Þ)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

>>A lot of that money is Democrat money in drag.....they’re plenty nervous about hilliary and don’t see obama as a real possibility so they’re hedging their bet.......they would be quite satisfied if not happy with rudee as prez if hilliary loses<<

That ought to open up some kind of strategic opportunity...

Can you imagine conservatives being so confident about getting a conservative Republican nominee that they have the time and money to maneuver a conservative into the front runner on the Democratic side too?

That might be a dream but it would be damn arrogant too.

And since its the pro choice people doing it, there ought to be a way to take advantage of that arrogance.


308 posted on 05/10/2007 12:33:14 AM PDT by gondramB (God only has ten rules, uncle Hank, and he has a much bigger house.)
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To: gondramB
I have a hard time seeing Hillary as the most threatening Democratic candidate - you don’t even see incumbent Presidents elected with 50% negatives much less first timers.

As JimRob famously posted---first Hillary's gotta get past us.

309 posted on 05/10/2007 3:23:17 AM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: dirtboy
This violates Ronald Reagan’s 11th Commandment: “Thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow Republican.”

Which is a falsehood, given that Reagan ran and almost defeated the GOP incumbent in 1976.


It's a given because he ran against and defeated other GOP candidates?

The operative phrase in his 11th Commandment is speak ill; Reagan communicated his points without trashing other Republicans. A great example of this can be found in the The Anderson-Reagan Presidential Debate

The point is, you debate with members of your own party and save the warfare for the enemy (e.g. the Democrats in the general election).
310 posted on 05/10/2007 5:47:15 AM PDT by msg-84 (Semper Fidelis)
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To: jedward

This has to go down as the most paranoid Thread in the history of FreeRepublic.


311 posted on 05/10/2007 5:48:46 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: AuntB
But I won’t vote for Rudy.

And if Rudy is the party's nominee, by not voting for him, you in effect vote for the Hillary/Hussein Obama ticket. Nice Going, you really proved your point.

312 posted on 05/10/2007 6:38:32 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.)
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To: stockstrader
I still can't believe that so many 'so-called' conservatives are willing to 'sell their souls',,,along with traditional conservative values and principles,,,,TO ELECT A LIBERAL!!! It's just amazing.

What is amazing and really sad, is the number of "true" conservatives that will in effect give the election to the dims just to "Stand on Principle".

313 posted on 05/10/2007 6:40:55 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68; Deb

>>“Hannity is 1. A Conservative Republican.”

>Wrong.

>He is a ratings whore who placed all of his eggs in the partisan republican basket.

Thank you. I used to like Sean when he REALLY used to be humble (instead of claiming he is). His Rooty worship is nauseating. It’s a shame.


314 posted on 05/10/2007 6:41:52 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: msg-84
The point is, you debate with members of your own party and save the warfare for the enemy (e.g. the Democrats in the general election).

What if your party is being taken over by a bunch of people who don't support the mission and charter of the party and they're helping someone who opposes the majority of the party's charter to hijack the party?

Reagan also said:

"We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged to the same goals as our opposition and who seek our support. Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all."

--Ronald Reagan, 1965

"A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.

I do not believe I have proposed anything that is contrary to what has been considered Republican principle. It is at the same time the very basis of conservatism. It is time to reassert that principle and raise it to full view. And if there are those who cannot subscribe to these principles, then let them go their way."

-- Ronald Reagan, March 1, 1975

I'm just showing those who can't subscribe to the core principles of the party, those who appear to have the same goals as our opposition, the door.
315 posted on 05/10/2007 6:45:49 AM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Dave S

BZZZZZZZZTTT!! Another well deserved zot!


316 posted on 05/10/2007 7:00:51 AM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: tkathy
BZZZZZZZZZZTT!!! And another one gone...
317 posted on 05/10/2007 7:08:23 AM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Spiff; Deb

Good. Dave S was another annoying pro-abortion loser. He will not be missed.

Personally, I don’t mind if deb stays. She seems a few cards shy of a full deck, if you know what I mean.


318 posted on 05/10/2007 8:38:24 AM PDT by NapkinUser (Rudy Giuliani gets his salsa from New York City.)
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To: Spiff

Merely an opinion. I think Rudy handled himself well during 9/11 and understands the threat. How that translates into foreign policy is only a guess at this point. Not a Rudy fan but I do believe there are those who are hanging on to the Rudy wagon until a more conservative one comes along.


319 posted on 05/10/2007 8:45:26 AM PDT by unionblue83 (Note to Dems:"Americans love a winner. Americans will not tolerate a loser." -Gen. Patton)
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To: unionblue83
Not a Rudy fan but I do believe there are those who are hanging on to the Rudy wagon until a more conservative one comes along.

I think that candidate is on the way, and his name is Fred Thompson.

320 posted on 05/10/2007 8:51:52 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Fred Thompson for President)
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