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2008 Republican Presidential Primary Candidate News, Review and Discussion Thread
Agencies | 07 May 2007 | jedward

Posted on 05/06/2007 11:16:43 PM PDT by jedward

Edited on 05/22/2007 11:41:01 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]


TIER 1 Candidates


Fmr. Governor Mitt Romney


Fmr. Senator Fred Thompson


Congressman Duncan Hunter


Fmr. Governor Mike Huckabee

Official Campaign Site
Official Campaign Blog

Live News Wires

Non-Declared

Draft Fred Thompson '08

Draft Fred Thompson Blog

Live News Wires

Official Campaign Site
Campaign Blog
Duncan Hunter '08 - MySpace
Duncan Hunter '08 - YouTube
Live News Wires

Official Campaign Site
Official Campaign Blog
ThePotusBlog
Live News Wires

TIER 2 Candidates


Senator Sam Brownback


Congressman Tom Tancredo


Ron Paul


Tommy Thompson

Official Campaign Site
Brownback Blog
Live News Wires

Official Campaign Site
Live News Wires

Official Campaign Site
Debate Highlights
Daily Blog
Live News Wires

Official Campaign Site
Tommy Thompson Myspace
WP Thompson Profile
Live News Wires

TIER 3 Candidates

Senator John McCain

Fmr. Governor Jim Gilmore

Alan Keyes

Newt Gingrich
Official Campaign Site
Live News Wires
Official Campaign Site
Live News Wires
Non-Declared
Official Alan Keyes Site
Live News Wires
Non-Declared
Official Newt Gingrich Site
Live News Wires

Yahoo '08 Election News

Fox You Decide 2008

Real Clear Politics

Patrick Ruffini 2008 Wire


This thread is designed as a Single Source Thread for current information and discussion in finding the best Conservative Candidate.  Please note several listed above are non-declared.

**Note:  If you have current and relevant links not shown above for a candidate, please freepmail them to me and I will update.  Enjoy the thread and I hope you find the information useful!

 


TOPICS: Announcements
KEYWORDS: 2008; candidates; elections; fredthompson; hunter; presidential; republican; ronpaul
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To: Old_Mil

He’s up there.


41 posted on 05/07/2007 3:41:44 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: Admin Moderator

Thanks for the help!


42 posted on 05/07/2007 3:42:36 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: Kevmo

“Is this a viable unbiased measure of who actually “wins” a debate, at least with the folks who put their money where their mouth is?”

I’m not sure there is ever a viable unbiased measure of who wins a Political debate, and that even includes the voting booth.


43 posted on 05/07/2007 3:50:35 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: Kevmo

‘Then do you think Intrade is a good indicator of who “won” the debate and who “lost”?’ - Kevmo

There is a subtle qualification to be made, which I tried to state in my answer above: “winning/losing” must be defined as performances “exceeding/failing” prior expectations relevant to nomination probabilities. If one defines “winning/losing” that way, yes, there’s no better indicator than Intrade contract prices.


44 posted on 05/07/2007 4:07:45 PM PDT by mdefranc
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To: mdefranc

Thanks for noting that. There are people lurking who will by trying to decide where to put weight and/or credence to a lot of the info that’s out in the media.


45 posted on 05/07/2007 4:23:10 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward

You’re welcome!


46 posted on 05/07/2007 4:40:33 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

“A firestorm of protest erupted”

Always enjoy the author’s addition to articles (lol) Thanks and great to see ya!


47 posted on 05/07/2007 5:06:56 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: streetpreacher

Header udpated, and thanks again for noting that.


48 posted on 05/07/2007 6:11:43 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: gpapa; Miztiki

Header now updated!


49 posted on 05/07/2007 6:12:34 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward

Something else that I can find news for....LOL...


50 posted on 05/07/2007 7:43:54 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Or news “from” :)


51 posted on 05/07/2007 7:48:22 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward

Why is Alan Keyes listed? Is he running?


52 posted on 05/07/2007 9:20:10 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: jedward

very nice!

Thank you!


53 posted on 05/07/2007 9:25:53 PM PDT by HonestConservative (If Conservatism is so dead, why are all the candidates claiming to be one. Hunter08)
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To: streetpreacher

He has not filed to run. I’m listing him as I suspect he’s considering running, has run in the past and I personally would like to see him get some positive exposure. It should also be noted that neither Newt Gingrich nor Fred Thompson has filed either, but both along with Keyes represent the conservative viewpoint quite well.

As time progresses, those listed will get smaller as potential candidates declare they will not file. I didn’t include his picture, as I’m waiting for any Keyes supporters to hunt one down and freepmail it to me. I haven’t received one yet.


54 posted on 05/07/2007 9:32:24 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: HonestConservative

My pleasure!


55 posted on 05/07/2007 9:32:56 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: mdefranc

Jedward: I’m not sure there is ever a viable unbiased measure of who wins a Political debate, and that even includes the voting booth.

mdefranc: There is a subtle qualification to be made, which I tried to state in my answer above: “winning/losing” must be defined as performances “exceeding/failing” prior expectations relevant to nomination probabilities. If one defines “winning/losing” that way, yes, there’s no better indicator than Intrade contract prices.

***Ok, it does appear to me that this is the best indicator for now. I have to admit that I’m disappointed with Duncan Hunter’s post-debate Intrade numbers. I think the expectation was high that he would break out. There’s a possibility that Matthews simply downshifted into laziness and followed the path of human nature, engaging in softball chit-chat with the candidate closest to him, as seen in this article. The result was that the lucky dog closest to him got the best chance to pitch his message.

What debate? (analysis: Romney, McCain given preferential treatment)
RenewAmerica.us ^ | May 7, 2007 | RenewAmerica staff
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1829913/posts

The reason for such blatant favoritism and ineptitude? Moderator Chris Matthews. Matthews carried on a running dialogue with Romney throughout the evening—in part because Romney was positioned right next to Matthews, a bit of good fortune Romney took full advantage of.

Matthews was curt, abrupt, and oblivious to others down the line, while he repeatedly deferred to Romney. Since the debate was whatever Matthews defined it to be—with no apparent rules, format, or attempt at even-handedness—this meant his virtual sidekick, Romney, had an obvious advantage.


56 posted on 05/07/2007 10:20:26 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: Kevmo; mdefranc

Good morning Kevmo. Yes, I think mdefranc did a good job in defending the credibility of the numbers giving the qualification.


57 posted on 05/08/2007 6:32:18 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward; WorkerbeeCitizen; Kevmo; Delphinium; calcowgirl; Knitting A Conundrum; ...
Good post, but you are missing the most obvious candidate, Rudy Giuliani. There’s no way in hell I’d vote for Rudy in the primary, but I’m surprised the “only RINOs can WIN!” crowd hasn’t shown up on this thread to complain yet. I’m sure they will. Oh, and BTW, Ron Paul IS listed. His profile is in the bottom column, right hand side. All the members of the Ron Paul fan club can relax now and go back to proclaiming he “won” the debate even though Mr. Liberty said Scooter Libby deserves to be locked up because of Libby’s position on Iraq. Yeah, real Constitutionalist position there.

In any case....

As many people know, as of right now I am supporting the only “Thompson” who’s actually IN the race, Governor TOMMY Thompson. He is just as conservative as Fred, if not more so, and probably much more electable in the general election. Tommy said it best himself in the debate:

“I’m the reliable conservative. I vetoed 1,900 things; I reduced taxes by 16-and-a-half billion dollars. I’m from Wisconsin, a blue state, and I won four consecutive times.I still have a very high popularity appeal, and I’m the one that started welfare reform, reduced welfare caseload in the United States, in the state of Wisconsin, by 93 percent. And I believe that kind of a record will attract Democrats and independents if you stand up and start talking on principles and ideas. Where I think the Republican party lost its way is, we went to Washington to change Washington. Washington changed us. We forgot to be coming up with new ideas, big ideas like Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan had an optimism and a belief that America could be stronger and better tomorrow than it is today, and he instilled that and inculcated that in every American. That’s what we have to do as a party again.”

And as FReeper Phil Collins noted:

“I agree that too many people, on FR, support Rudy and Fred and that not enough support Tommy Thompson, the candidate for whom I’ll volunteer. While he was gov., he proved that he’s pro-tax cuts, pro-welfare cuts, pro-life, pro-capital punishment, anti-gay marriage, and pro-gun rights. He says that he wants to deport as many illegal aliens as possible, as quickly as possible. Two of the last three republican presidents were governors, as well as four out of the five last U.S. presidents, and Thompson was a governor almost as long as Romney and Huckabee, combined. He’s also the only former cabinet member who’s running.”
And make no mistake about it being a blue state, here’s the kind of political environment conservatives face in Wisconsin:

GOVERNOR: Jim Doyle (D)
LT. GOVERNOR: Barbara Lawton (D)
SECRETARY OF STATE: Doug LaFollette (D)
STATE TREASURER: Dawn Marie Sass (D)
STATE SUPERINTENDENT OF EDUCATION: Elizabeth “Libby” Burmaster (D)
U.S. SENATORS: Herb Kohl (D), Russ Feingold (D)
U.S. CONGRESS: 5D, 3R

It must really tick off the Ahnuld/Rudy backers (I have yet to meet someone on FR who is pro-Rudy but not pro-Arnold) seeing good, PRINCIPLED unapologetic conservatives like Tommy Thompson, Mike Huckabee, and Duncan Hunter run and WIN in blue states. Having such people elected to office goes against their entire theory why we “need” to run RINOs, so they simply ignore them.

I urge all of you to learn more about Thompson’s background and positions and consider him for President. Find out more here:

TOMMY THOMPSON OFFICIAL CAMPAIGN SITE:
http://www.tommy2008.com/Home.aspx

TOMMY THOMPSON’S MYSPACE:
http://www.myspace.com/tommythompson08

WIKIPEDIA PROFILE OF TOMMY THOMPSON:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Thompson

WASHINGTON POST PROFILE OF TOMMY THOMPSON:
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/2008-presidential-candidates/tommy-thompson/

TOMMY THOMPSON ON THE ISSUES:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1821821/posts

58 posted on 05/09/2007 2:01:01 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Don't blame Illinois for Pelosi, we elected ROSKAM)
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To: BillyBoy

I liked Thompson in the debate. He didn’t really do enough to stand out in that large crowd, and given the quick format, but I look forward to hearing more. Thanks for all the links.


59 posted on 05/09/2007 3:34:47 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: BillyBoy; calcowgirl; NormsRevenge; ElkGroveDan; Carry_Okie; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; forester; ...
Good post! I honor your selection of a candidate to support, but I have a "favorit son" conservative that I'm supporting at this time as you probably already know. Keep up your good works. You're doin the Lord's work, BillyBoy!!!

God bless you!!!

60 posted on 05/09/2007 6:11:55 PM PDT by SierraWasp (CA!!! Are you ready to rumble *??? Or are ya just gonna mumble and grumble??? (*aka "Recall"))
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