Find out the TRUTH about Terris Fight for life

Amazon.com:Review ^ | April 22, 2006 | Debra M. Ferguson

[floriduh voter]

Yeah, I think OBL is dead. If he had bad kidneys, hiking and hiding around in caves would not help his condition. He’s probably died from auto immune problems related to his kidneys. It’d be easy to catch pneumonia or break a leg out there. Somebody would have turned him in for the bounty if he was still alive. McCain said would chase him to the gates of hell. (a little melodramatic).

[floriduh voter]

Duncan Hunter has no neck but I think I could get used to it. What was up with that? I haven’t really seem him that often. Hunter belongs in the top five.

[floriduh voter]

Your post 87. The death warrant issued by Judge Greer was the first in history ever issued to a citizen who had not ever been charged with any criminal offense. The law states that a judge cannot choose the manner of someone's death. Judge Greer broke that law too. He ordered her murdered and chose the method of her death.

I cannot support Mitt. He is riding high with Mel Sembler's money. Sembler is on http://www.judgegeorgegreer.com

There are numerous links on that url. People need to bookmark it and do some research into Greer's poor record as a judge, his lack of experience in probate when he started, the other judges and how much of Terri's rehab monies went to the death lawyers who sought out Michael Schiavo to begin with and he was more than happy to retain them.

Debra Bushnell introduced Mikey to Felos.

[floriduh voter]

The elderly are being starved and dehydrated to death as well but only at certain locations. It depends where they end up and even if they say “where’s my dinner, I’m hungry,” they will be denied food.

[floriduh voter]

The death order went to the 2nd DCA in Lakeland and at appeals courts, one judge at that level writes the opinion. The guy has a tough name to recall but it's a long name, starts with a B. He's a boy scout leader. Guess he likes boys but he sure hated Terri.

The Fla Supremes may have seen it but they were full of old codgers until Jeb put a young Hispanic jurist on the bench. I think Jeb's appointees voted against Terri subsequent to her 2003 save. Tallahassee voted to kill her. Jeb didn't over-ride them by using his executive authority the Supremes pre-Alito and Roberts DENIED HER THE RIGHT TO BE HEARD IN D.C. (Anna Nicole Smith got her day in court though). Atlanta's Appeals Court turned Terri down, a republican there as well. 2nd dca always affirmed Greer especially if it was about Terri. Whittemore in Fed Court in Tampa is a sadistic sob who let her starve and dry up while he run out the clock and held sadistic hearings where the Schindlers' witnesses were not allowed to testify and Whittemore said their attorney's memorandum of law wasn't good enough.

That had nothing to do with doing a de novo hearing. The first priority was to rehydrate Terri, not critique what's his name's memo of law! You know, the guy that looks kinda like Clark Kent. I just can't think of his name tonight.

[TAdams8591]

Thank you for the ping. I will look for the book! : )

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Rudy meets Flipper, once over easy...

When Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani came to the home county of Terri Schiavo last month, he said he supported the controversial effort by Congress to intervene to keep the severely brain-damaged woman alive.

But now it's not so clear where he stands on the Schiavo case.

In a televised presidential debate Thursday night, Giuliani suggested the Schiavo controversy should have been left to the courts.

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"Anybody hurts themselves by being inconsistent on this particular subject, " said state Rep. Dennis Baxley, an Ocala Republican who led the state legislative efforts to keep Schiavo alive in 2005. "In retrospect, it's not popular to be associated with it, but when you're in the middle of it, you don't deal with whether it's popular, you have to deal with whether it's right."

"Mr. Giuliani needs to figure out what he really believes about these important issues of privacy and the rule of law, " said Derek Newton, a Democratic consultant and spokesman for Terripac, the political committee started by Terri Schiavo's husband. "But if he believes what he said last - that this issue is a legal one and not a political one - he is squarely in tune with most Americans, and we applaud him."

Giuliani flips on Schiavo case

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Rudy now flips and serves it with Log Cabin syrup. At least they say "right-to-life", (must have been a typo.) I wonder what he wore. No, I don't! I really don't want to know!

Rudy Giuliani emerged as a favorite among many members of the GOP's largest gay organization; they cited his record on social issues, taxes and defense.

However, delegates to the Log Cabin Republicans annual convention in Denver said Friday they also fear that the former New York mayor, in his bid to capture the Republican presidential nomination, might be waffling as he reaches out to the more conservative GOP voters who hold sway in the primaries.

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Former Republican Sen. Alan Simpson, of Wyoming, the event's keynote speaker, agreed. He told the group of about 200 that he thinks the party is in a better place than it was after delving into issues such as the Terri Schiavo right-to-life case and gay marriage.

Giuliani's bid is favored by many in gay GOP group

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To frame what this writer says, realize he is pro-abort.

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Aside from Rudy Giuliani's torturous explanation of his views on abortion, it was easy to discern after Thursday's debate that the candidates running for the Republican presidential nomination are staunch advocates of life, namely when it comes to abortion.

In fact, they were passionate on the issue, and some made it clear that nothing is more important than life itself.

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney: "Well, I've always been personally pro-life."

When asked about the Terri Schiavo case, he replied: "I think the Congress's job is to make sure that laws are respecting the sanctity of life."

California Rep. Duncan Hunter evoked the memory of a late president to explain his position: "Ronald Reagan said, on the question of life, 'When there's a question, err on the side of life.'"

Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback was the most eloquent on the subject: "I believe life is one of the central issues of our day, and I believe that every human life at every phase is unique, is beautiful, is a child of a loving God, period."

He later added: "Her life is sacred. Even if it's in that difficult moment that she's in at that point in time, that life is sacred, and we should stand for life in all its circumstances."

On stem cell research, Brownback said, "It is not necessary to kill a human life for us to heal people."

That last line caught my attention because that is often something we hear from victims rights groups, law enforcement and prosecutors when someone is put to death for committing a crime.

GOP isn't pro-life out of the womb

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[DeaconRed]

I said it before she died and I will say it again.
We don't starve someone to death.
We wouldn't do it to a dog.
How in the HELL did we allow this to happen?

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Visitors who side with Mikey on this issue, you can find yourselves in company with the World Socialists. They see Terri's Legacy as a litmus test for the other side. Here is what the bitter enemies of our America say...

Instead, the event had more the character of an audition, held to give the candidates an opportunity to voice their views on a series of litmus tests imposed by the Christian fundamentalist elements whose support they are courting in the Republican primaries: abortion, gay rights, stem cell research, the Terry Schiavo case, the teaching of evolution.

Nine out of ten, all but former New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani, said they would welcome a Supreme Court decision overturning Roe v. Wade and allowing the states or the federal government to make abortion illegal. Seven of the ten backed the congressional effort to maintain Schiavo on life support despite overwhelming medical evidence that she was in an irreversible vegetative state. Eight of the ten opposed federal funding of stem cell research. And in response to a direct question, former Wisconsin governor Tommy Thompson said that businesses should be allowed to fire gay employees because of their sexual orientation.

First Republican presidential debate displays a party in deepening crisis

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I said it before she died and I will say it again. We don't starve someone to death. We wouldn't do it to a dog. How in the HELL did we allow this to happen?

To our great shock it actually happened in this country of ours. Maybe we can stop it from happening to others (as we have already done for a few...) and bring some justice here on earth to the perps! Check out the story of Scott Thomas post #24. He is doing fine now, but was nearly snuffed by the system and one who wanted him killed, too.

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Mor on Rudy waffles now being served...

It wasn't just abortion Thursday night. Giuliani parted ways with his party's social conservatives by saying the Terri Schiavo case shouldn't have been brought before Congress; declaring he had supported public funding of abortion in New York; and even leaving the door open to federal funding on embryonic stem cell research.

Some Republicans also said Giuliani has little choice but to stick with his abortion position now -- though he did back away from his prior support for the right to late-term abortion.

"Any other changes will be seen as pandering and waffling. He's got his position, and he has made it very clear he's going to live with it," said Republican pollster Whit Ayres.

Rudy aims to please both sides on Roe v. Wade

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Here is another short stack of Rudy waffles drenched in Log Cabin syrup. But first is my own commentary on who was for saving Terri and who was against, that fateful time of her life at Pinellas Park two years ago.

Remarkably, those who supported Terri represented nearly every walk of life and faith. Even many of the press types did, too, although their thoughts never made it past the filters.

So who were for her death? We had those backing Mikey, people like Felos and Dethnell, who love euthanasia. We had a few Scientologists, and a group of gays, and finally the agitators hired for pay. The overall numbers were tiny compared to those supporting Terri, but they were loud, noisy, obnoxious.

However, delegates to the Log Cabin Republicans annual convention said Friday they also fear that the former New York mayor, in his bid to capture the Republican presidential nomination, might be waffling as he reaches out to the more conservative GOP voters who hold sway in the primaries.

"Mainstream Republican voters and moderate voters are going to vote for you. Don't tilt to the right," said Frank Ricchiazzi, who helped found the Log Cabin group 30 years ago.

Ricchiazzi, who wore an "I Love Rudy" button, cited Giuliani's remarks on abortion during the GOP presidential candidates' debate Thursday night

Giuliani Emerging As Favorite of Gays

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Commentary by Rush Limbaugh on the debate...

What is this culture of corruption? That is a Democrat Party talking point from the last election, the culture of corruption. These questions are embarrassing. These people are probably very proud of them. The Terri Schiavo case? Abortion? Matthews could not let go of abortion. He thinks that the next election is going to be based totally on abortion. You know what was funny? When I was flying up to Detroit yesterday, I was channel surfing around. I checked the movie channels first, and there was nothing on the movie channels I wanted to see, so I started surfing the news channels. MSNBC was talking about the debate. It had a countdown clock. It was a little after 11 o'clock, count down, "Eight hours, 54 minutes to --" like it was a space launch or something. They were all analyzing this thing before it happened, and in the process, Chris Matthews had a little roundtable and he couldn't figure out why Hillary Clinton's poll numbers are falling because everybody thought that after that debate she kicked rear end. She was called Reaganesque by Pat Buchanan. She was the only one to answer the question about if we were attacked, what will you do? She said retaliate, and the others chimed in later.

Drive-By Media Moderator Questions Dominate GOP Debate

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A little projection by a lib here...

One thing was very clear in all the back and forth though -- only the Republicans were using the term "political theatre," and they were using to accuse the Democrats of employing it by sending Bush a bill they knew he would veto.

"By this political theater that we're fixing to embark on ... this legislation is dead before arrival," said Sen. Trent Lott (R-MS).

Funny, I don't recall Lott describing the "Incapacitated Person's Legal Protection Act" as political theatre. That was the 2005 bogus bill hastily drawn up by Republicans to cater to their pro-life base (and override a husband's power of attorney) by forcing feeding tubes back into poor Terry Schiavo.

May 6, 2007: Political Theater

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This is from the Washington Post blogs. I had trouble loading the pages, even turned off the yuck filter, but finally it came in. Here is one poster...

Another telling moment in the debate: Most of them agreed that the Congress was right to intervene in the Terri Schiavo case as, as one said, Congress should always protect life. Yet, most of them while campaigning, blame the democrats in Congress for trying to end the war in Iraq, that has cost tens of thousands of lives. A bit of a disconnect to say the least. And, how can you be against abortion and for the war? Oh, I believe in God and evolution. My favorite commandmant? Thou shall not kill.

Evolution and the Hand of God

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This is from the same Washington Post blog section as above, except is a thread on the debates and Terri. There is plenty of commentary on Terri and her Legacy on this blog...

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Frontrunners on the Terri Schiavo Case

The three frontrunning candidates all said that they thought the Republican-controlled Congress had made a mistake in weighing in on whether Terri Schiavo should live or die.

Here's an excerpt from each of their responses:

Romney: "I think we should generally make the family make the decision...The decision of Congress to get involved was a mistake."

McCain: "This is a very difficult issue...In retrospect we should have taken some more time and looked at it more carefully...we probably acted too hastily."

Giuliani: "The better place to decide that...is in front of a court."

Frontrunners on the Terri Schiavo Case

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This comes from U.S. News and World Report...

In a marked departure from last week's Democratic presidential debate, the differences among candidates were most pronounced on social issues. In addition to abortion rights, those issues included federal funding for embryonic stem cell research and whether it was proper for Congress to intervene in the Terri Schiavo case in 2005.

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On some hot-button issues, including the Schiavo intervention, the seven second-tier candidates attempted to portray themselves as more in line than the front-runners with the GOP's base. Giuliani, Arizona Senator McCain, and former Massachusetts Governor Romney all said or implied that Congress was wrong to intervene in the case, while Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback and California Rep. Duncan Hunter defended the move.

"Even if it's in that difficult moment that she's in at that point in time, that life is sacred," Brownback said of Schiavo. "And we should stand for life in all its circumstances."

GOP Debate Reveals Sharp Divisions on Major Issues

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This is from PowerLine also with a forum on the topic included...

I think this emphasis is ludicrously out of step with the actual concerns of Republican primary voters, but very much in tune with the stereotype of Republicans that the MSM seek to convey. (It was no accident that one of Chris Matthews' questions was about Terry Schiavo!)

What Do We Care About?

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