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Mystery Swirls in Khimki Over Whereabouts of War Remains (Russian hypocrisy)
The Moscow Times ^ | April 28, 2007 | Natalya Krainova

Posted on 05/01/2007 11:43:02 AM PDT by lizol

Mystery Swirls in Khimki Over Whereabouts of War Remains

By Natalya Krainova Staff Writer

The whereabouts of the remains of six Soviet war heroes are something of a mystery.

The World War II pilots' remains were dug up at a memorial in Khimki, north of Moscow, last week for reburial at a different location on Victory Day. But they seem to have disappeared.

The Khimki administration, which authorized the reburial, said it did not know where the remains were, but thought they might be at the morgue in Skhodnya, a nearby town, Noviye Izvestia reported Friday.

Calls to the administration went unanswered on Friday.

But a spokeswoman for the morgue said by telephone Friday: "We don't have them."

Vyacheslav Nyrkov, director of Ritual, the Khimki agency that exhumed the remains, refused to comment on their whereabouts.

The designer of a new monument for the pilots, Alexander Mustafin, said he thought the remains had been hidden to calm tensions.

Khimki allowed the reburial after war veterans complained that prostitutes were desecrating the site along Leningradskoye Shosse. Authorities also want to widen the highway.

Dozens of Communist supporters held a protest over the reburial at the site last Sunday.

"These ashes belong to heroes who defended our motherland. They shouldn't have been dug up just because someone doesn't like the monument at this place," one of the protesters, Pavel Tarasov, said by telephone Friday.

Tarasov, an aide to Communist State Duma Deputy Valery Rashkin, accused authorities of double standards, citing the current uproar over Estonia's decision to remove a Soviet war memorial and exhume soldiers there.

"At least in Estonia this is largely covered by the media so people can come out and voice their protest, but in Russia all is done sneakily," said Olga Ivanova, another participant in the Sunday protest.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: estonia; russia
Window on Eurasia: Botched Reburial of Veterans in Moscow Prompts Russian to Ask: 'Why are We Complaining about the Estonians?'

Paul Goble

Vienna, April 20 –Officials in the Moscow suburb of Khimki used bulldozers on Monday to disinter the bodies of six Soviet heroes from World War II this week and then left some of the veterans’ remains lying about in the weather for three days, outraging many Russians and prompting questions about Moscow’s criticism of Estonia. Today’s “Novyye izvestiya” published a detailed article about the case, including interviews with local residents and officials but also photographs of the disturbed ground from which the bodies had been taken, the bones left behind, and the war memorial itself quickly refurbished after public complaints
(http://www.newizv.ru/print/68316).

In the paper’s coverage of what they described as “a scandal around the actual tearing down of a monument to the defenders of Moscow,” Lyudmila Nazdracheva and Viktor Tkachev described the way in which officials had carried out the botched reburial operation and the feelings of local residents.

On Monday of this week, Nazdracheva and Tkachev wrote, the Khimki administration send in a bulldozer to dig up the graces as well as an ambulance to carry them off, three militiamen to guard the operation, and several Tajik workers with shovels to dig up what the bulldozer could not.

One eyewitness told the journalists that the bones had been gathered up and placed in black boxes but the Tajiks shouted at the time that “they had forgotten two bones. For three days, these graves stood open. And only on Thursday, when people raised a scandal did officials put the monument in order as if nothing had happened.”
The “Novyye izvestiya” journalists provided one grizzly picture of one of the bones but pointedly noted that they would turn over the remains to those responsible for providing these dead heroes with what should be but so far has not been a dignified reburial.

Pressed by the public and the journalists to explain why this had taken place, the Khimki administration said that they had approved plans to move the graves because they wanted to widen the road and had secured the agreement of both the relatives of those buried there and local groups of veterans.

A leader of one veterans’ organizations confirmed that his group had approved the measure: there was simply no alternative to reburial given that the road was going to be widened, he said. “Even according to the norms of Christian morality,” he continued, this was what had to be done.

As for the refurbishing of the war memorial itself, Khimki officials said they had to clean it up because prostitutes had frequented the area – but the “Novyye izvestiya” journalists said that they had been told by one local resident that the prostitutes had left that spot after a militia post opened there two years ago. But as appalling as all this clearly is to the residents of a country where World War II is one of the few things all residents honor, there is another side to this case that may cast an even longer shadow.

Over the past year, Russian officials have conducted an intense propaganda barrage against Tallinn’s plans to relocate a Soviet war memorial and the graves of Soviet soldiers out of the center of the Estonian capital. Russian officials have suggested that such steps show that Estonia wants to dishonor those who fought against Hitler.

But as one Khimki resident told the “Novyye izvestiya” journalists, “it is not clear why we are fighting with the Estonians who have decided to rebury Soviet soldiers [when officials in Moscow] are doing the same thing.” So far, the Estonian media have not picked up this story, but they or at least Estonian officials are certain to do so.

UPDATE ON APRIL 23: On Sunday, April 22, a group of members of the Union of Communist Youth and related movements staged a protest at the site of the reburial. The militia dispersed the meeting because participants did not have a permit. Several of those taking part were arrested, beaten, and have now declared a hunger strike
(http://www.annews.ru/news/detail.php?ID=95152).

In a related development, last Wednesday, April 18, Duma vice speaker Vladimir Katrenko asked a parliamentary question to RF Procurator General Yuriy Chaika concerning the decision of the Stavropol' authorities to tear down a monument to Cossacks who fought in World War II. Katrenko told journalists that such actions by Russian officials were especially troubling given their criticism of Estonia
(http://www.annews.ru/news/detail. php?ID=79832).

UPDATE ON APRIL 27: Even as Russian officials continue to denounce Estonia’s removal of a Soviet war memorial in Tallinn and Russian prosecutors consider two suits brought by those who protested against the exhumation of the graves of World War II heroes in Khimki, officials in that Moscow suburb acknowledged that they currently have no idea where the remains had been taken, Moscow’s “Gazeta” newspaper has reported
(http://www.polit.ru/news/2007/04/27/himki_print.html).

http://windowoneurasia.blogspot.com/2007/04/window-on-eurasia-botched-reburial-of.html

1 posted on 05/01/2007 11:43:11 AM PDT by lizol
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2 posted on 05/01/2007 11:44:40 AM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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3 posted on 05/01/2007 12:10:38 PM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: lizol
There was an article in a Karaganda, Kazakhstan, Internet site (which is a dead link now), that had something interesting on a cemetary there, and the Soviet attitude towards 'hallowed ground':
Soviet tankers learned to drive on the bones of the dead

Noviy Vestnik | June 2nd, 2004 | Serygey Tereshchenko

Last Monday two new memorials appeared simulaneously at the Spasskiy cemetary. One was placed by the Karaganda city government, the other by the government of Lithuania.

Our people put up a marker at Spasskiy to remember all who faced repression on Kazakhstan's soil. The authors of this work were Murat Kalkabaev and Vladimir Trotsenko, who worked on the project and argued for space at the cemetary for a year and a half. Finally it was decided that the marker would not be placed alongside the other memorials, but a bit to the front. Such a composition resulted in a better visual impression than just a straight line of stone markers. So that the memorial complex gave a more unified appearance, Trotsenko decided to take down the iron fence around the cemetary. Well-known architect Aleksandr Titarev, however, was decidedly against such a move.

"It was I, in my day, who thought up the cemetary complex at Spassky," he reported to members of the architectural council at the time. "I know the place very well. The iron fence shouldn't be taken down from the cemetary under any circumstances. Otherwise people will set horses and sheep out to graze among the graves."

But Vladimir Trotsenko knew how to insist on his way, and the fence was taken down. True, it was not removed everywhere - only from the sides of the main entrance. After all the organizational problems were solved, the sign itself was made in about two days in a local metal-working factory.

The memorial to the Lithuanians who died at the Spasskiy concentraton camp was a bit simpler. A place for a memorial stone had been decided upon long ago. While the marker was sculpted by an artist in Lithuania, Karaganda had only to help with the installation. For the memorial's opening ceremony an entire delegation from Lithuania arrived. Heading it was Lithuanian secretary of labor and social services, Violeta Muruskayte, and Lithuanian Ambassador Romualdas Visokavichus. During the ceremony, it was stated that it was Lithuania that had brought the entire Spasskiy memorial complex into existance.

"From 1953 to 1954, I did a term in the camps here," recalled former steppe camp prisoner Antanos Seykalis. "In those days Lithuania was actively resisting the Soviet occupation, and in practically every school there was an underground organization. Ours was discovered... and so I showed up in Kazakhstan. Even now I cannot forget the horrors of day to day life in the camps. The prison uprising in Kengira, near Zhezkazgan. How they brutally put it down with the help of tanks. So many died back then. In 1990, I - with the help of comrades from the public organization of former political prisoners - once again came to Karaganda. We wanted to see in what condition was the prison cemetary in Spasskiy. And in horror we discovered that there wasn't a cemetary! On it's place was a tank training ground. Soviet tankers learned to drive on the bones of the dead! Under the guise of tourists, we went into this field and placed the first Catholic cross. After a few years they told me that the Kazakhstani government had closed the tank training area and built in its place a memorial complex."

Alongside the Lithuanians' memorial stone in Spasskiy today are markers dedicated to Germans, French, Italians, Japanese, Finns, Poles, Rumanians, Ukrainians, and Armenians. Soon Russia will dedicate a marker, though the Russian memorial will not be in the collective row, but a bit to the side.

4 posted on 05/01/2007 12:10:43 PM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: lizol
I wonder how Russia even keeps track of its war dead, to say nothing of the people her various leaders have murdered over the years. This is from Novaya Gazeta again:
THE "FORGOTTEN WAR" - a special by Novaya Gazeta, whose purpose is to assemble an anthology of memoirs from Soviet officers and soldiers who served in the 'local wars' of 20th century.

The editorial staff of Novaya Gazeta turns to the readers and visitors on this site with a request to send us their recollections, evidence and stories on this theme.

From the extract of the federal law concerning veterans quoted below, you can recall when and where Russian soldiers and officers participated in the wars. These events have been erased from the active memory of people born in this post-Soviet era, but they cannot be crossed out from the history of Russia, or from the living recollections of those Russian servicemen who carried out their international duty abroad.

QUOTE

Countries, Cities, Territories and periods of combat with the participation of citizens from the Russian Federation

Division I

Civil war: 23 February 1918 - October 1922
Soviet-Polish war: March - October of 1920
Combat operations in Spain: 1936 - 1939;
War with Finland: 30 November 1939 - 13 March 1940
World War II: 22 June 1941 - 9(11) May 1945
War with Japan: 9 August 1945 - 3 September 1945
Combat operations for the liquidation of banditism: October 1922 - June 1931
Combat operations in the region of Khasan lake: 29 July - 11 August 1938
Combat operations on the Khalkin-Gol river: 11 May - 16 September 1939
Combat operations during the reunification of the USSR, West Ukraine and West Belorus:17- 28 September 1939
Combat operations in China: August 1924 - July 1927, October - November of 1929, July 1937 - September 1944, July - September of 1945, March 1946 - April 1949, March - May 1950 (for personnel from PVO Air Defense), June 1950 - July 1953 (for the personnel of the military subdivisions, which participated in combat in North Korea from the territory of China)
Combat operations in North Korea: June 1950 - July 1953
Combat operations in Hungary: 1956
Combat operations in Cuba during the Caribbean crisis: July 1962 - November 1963
Combat operations on Damanskiy island: March of 1969
Combat operations in the region of Lake Zhalanashkol' : August of 1969
Combat operations in Tadzhikistan: since 1990;
Combat operations in the Chechen republic: since October of 1994.

Division III

Combat operations in Laos: January 1960 - December 1963, August 1964 - November 1968, November 1969 - December 1970
Combat operations in Vietnam: January 1961 - December 1974
Combat operations in Algeria: 1962-1964
Combat operations in the Yemen Arab republic: 18 October 1962 - 31 March 1963, November 1967 - December 1969
Combat operations in Ethiopia: 1962-1991
Combat operations in Egypt (the United Arab Republic): 18 October 1962 - 31 March 1963, June 1967 - 1968, March 1969 - July 1972, 5 October 1973 - 31 March 1974, June 1974 - February 1975 (for the personnel of ships and auxiliaries from the Black Sea and Pacific Ocean fleets, which participated in the mine clearing of the zone of the Suez Canal)
Combat operations in Syria: 5-13 June 1967, 1 March - 31 July 1970, 1 September - 30 November 1972, 6-24 October of 1973
Combat operations in Mozambique: 1967-1969, November 1975 - November 1979
Combat operations in Cambodia: April - December 1970
Combat operations in Bangladesh: 1972-1973 (for the personnel of ships and auxiliaries in the navy of the USSR)
Combat operations in Cyprus and in the adjacent sea area: July - August 1974
Combat operations in Angola: November 1975 - 1994
Combat operations during the Sino-Vietnamese conflict: 17 February - 18 March 1979
Combat operations in Afghanistan: April 1978 - 15 February 1989
Combat operations during the of the Iran-Iraq war: September 1980 - August 1988 (for the personnel of the USSR navy, which ensuresd navigation in the Persian Gulf)
Combat operations in Syria and Lebanon: June 1982
Combat operations in South Sudan: 1983-1994
Combat operations during the Yemeni - Saudi conflict: 1 December 1983 - 31 January 1984
Combat operations in the People's Democratic Republic of Yemen 1 - 31 January 1986
Combat operations in the territory of Libya and adjacent waters in the Bay of Sider: 23 March - 15 April 1986
Combat operations in Somalia: 1991-1994
Combat operations in Kuwait and adjacent waters of the Persian Gulf: 17 January - 28 February 1991


The editorial staff of New Gazeta awaits your stories.
Write us on this forum, or by electronic mail, if you have it, how you or someone you know fought in other countries as the soldiers or officers in the various branches of USSR armed forces.
By participating in this, you are helping your compatriots learn the truth about those events which, even after many years, the officials prefer not to speak about.

This message was edited by darin - Aug 3 2004, 12:11 PM

5 posted on 05/01/2007 12:17:18 PM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: lizol
...remains were dug up at a memorial in Khimki, north of Moscow, last week for reburial at a different location on Victory Day. But they seem to have disappeared.

Authorities have released this photo of suspected thieves.


6 posted on 05/01/2007 12:43:46 PM PDT by uglybiker (relaxing in a cloud of quality, pre-owned tobacco essence)
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To: lizol
Well, someone's gonna be in deep Khimki over this!
7 posted on 05/01/2007 12:54:29 PM PDT by Grut
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