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Navy Refines Its Recruitment So More SEALs Pass Muster
Tampa Tribune ^ | April 30, 2007 | Richard Lardner

Posted on 05/01/2007 6:16:46 AM PDT by RDTF

TAMPA - With orders to add 500 SEALs to its special warfare ranks by 2010, the Navy has retooled its recruiting system to better identify candidates capable of passing the demanding training program, according to Rear Adm. Joe Maguire, the top officer at Naval Special Warfare Command in San Diego.

"We're trying to be smarter about it," Maguire said during an interview Friday at MacDill Air Force Base. "In the past, we just cast the net out and just pulled the damn thing in."

As part of the effort, the Navy has installed former SEALs as mentors in recruiting districts across the country to pinpoint young men with the necessary physical and mental tools, said Maguire, who was in Tampa last week for a series of events marking the 20th anniversary of the formation of U.S. Special Operations Command.

The Navy now administers swimming tests to promising recruits, a step previously disallowed because of liability concerns.

"We [used to] let the lawyers tell us what the heck to do," Maguire said. "It was a safety issue."

The Navy has partnered with YMCAs and other fitness organizations to have water safety instructors on hand while a swim test is administered.

"So, as result of that, before we ship a kid, we make sure he's met the standard," he said.

Navy recruiters are targeting venues most likely to attract potential SEAL candidates, such as collegiate wrestling events and the California Lifeguard Championships, Maguire said.

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"The demand for special operations forces, and for SEALs in particular, is becoming even greater," Maguire said. "So I've got to grow the force, which we are, but most importantly, I've got to make sure that I maintain the quality of the individuals as we're growing."

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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1 posted on 05/01/2007 6:16:48 AM PDT by RDTF
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To: RDTF

WOW - I know some old school members of The Teams who are not going to like this....

Always happens though.

Women in the academies, etc....

Time marches on..


2 posted on 05/01/2007 6:19:56 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: RDTF
SOF Truths:

1. Humans are more important than hardware
2. Quality is better than quantity
3. SOF cannot be mass-produced
4. Competent SOF cannot be created after emergencies arise

3 posted on 05/01/2007 6:22:17 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: RDTF
I always thought that all the SF type units would have a better chance at recruitment if there was a 1/2 way house type of program that would enable the military to identify good candidates and invest 6 to 8 weeks to get them in better shape, expose them to the type of training they will receive, etc. Or perhaps give a chance for some outside training. I knew a guy that was tough as nails and had already completed several tough courses.... but could not swim. His unit was constantly rotating out to the field so he never had a chance to learn (at least while I was there). So for the want of 4 weeks of "down time" he was never able to apply for SF.

Might also be useful to weed out the wantabe’s

4 posted on 05/01/2007 6:22:40 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: RDTF

500 is not a very large number. There may be a ‘relaxing’ of the requirements to get IN to the SEAL program, but the Darwinian process of culling the best of the best will go on.


5 posted on 05/01/2007 6:26:11 AM PDT by Pistolshot (Thompson '08)
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To: Jake The Goose

Actually, it doesn’t sound like the SEALs are lowering the performance bar in order to raise recruiting levels... just the opposite. The are targeting specific groups of people as likely candidates, those with the requisite physical and mental aptitude needed to succeed and graduate training, not just graduating more recruits to bolster numbers.


6 posted on 05/01/2007 6:26:26 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU HAVE NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT. Actually, you lack even a legitimate excuse.)
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To: Jake The Goose
WOW - I know some old school members of The Teams who are not going to like this....

Always happens though.

Women in the academies, etc....

How closely did you read the article? It sounds like they are doing some smart things in improving their screening during the recruiting process -- not easing the requirements -- to ensure that they target their recruiting better.

"So I've got to grow the force, which we are, but most importantly, I've got to make sure that I maintain the quality of the individuals as we're growing."

7 posted on 05/01/2007 6:26:54 AM PDT by VRWCmember (Go Rudy Go! (And take McCain with you!))
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To: RDTF

Special Forces are by definition elite forces. They cannot be mass produced.


8 posted on 05/01/2007 6:27:38 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: RDTF
"So I've got to grow the force, which we are, but most importantly, I've got to make sure that I maintain the quality of the individuals as we're growing."

Doesn't sound like he thinks like a Special Operations guy.

9 posted on 05/01/2007 6:30:57 AM PDT by T.Smith
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To: RDTF
"We [used to] let the lawyers tell us what the heck to do," Maguire said.

Hot Damn! 'Bout Time!

Get the damn JAGoffs out of the way, those clowns are screwin' our guys good, them and the damn NCIS.

10 posted on 05/01/2007 6:32:44 AM PDT by smoothsailing ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction"--President Ronald Reagan)
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To: RDTF
College and NFL teams don’t wait for players to come to them. They go out and find the best players.

Sending SEALs out to find potential candidates is smart.

11 posted on 05/01/2007 6:35:55 AM PDT by ryan71 (You can hear it on the coconut telegraph...)
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To: taxcontrol
Taxcontrol is right, if only there was a place to go to recruit people who wanted to fight wars, had some combat training, had learned to swim, and had recently gone through some intense physical and psychological conditioning.

How about the School of Infantry? Oh wait, they are recruiting from either the outside or from the Navy. If everyone had gotten their heads together and made the SEALS part of the Marine Corps, they could have opened up the program to a wider base of guys being trained for ground combat and amphibious operations. The rest of the Navy fights with machines from aboard ship or aircraft (granted, Sailors had historically defended ports and facilities, gone ashore to fight in some special circumstances, boarded ships, etc.). The SEALS are a ground combat force, completely different. I understand the frogman/UDT origin of the SEALS, but once they started going ashore, somebody could have said, “hey don’t we have guys on float who go ashore to fight”.

12 posted on 05/01/2007 6:37:54 AM PDT by NYFriend
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To: RDTF
before we ship a kid, we make sure he's met the standard

The Navy should do that for all enlistees. It's no fun jumping into the Bay of Naples because some drunk kid fell off the liberty boat and couldn't swim. I never understood why the Navy sends non-swimmers to sea duty.
13 posted on 05/01/2007 6:38:04 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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To: Thrownatbirth
I never understood why the Navy sends non-swimmers to sea duty.

Huh?

14 posted on 05/01/2007 6:41:08 AM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: neodad
Huh?

They finally fixed that? Great Lakes was a while back...
15 posted on 05/01/2007 6:51:34 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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To: RDTF

no...no....no..... not the SEALs!

[shakes head wondering what the hell is happening to his beloved country]


16 posted on 05/01/2007 7:04:55 AM PDT by Fighting Irish (Cha robh dithis riamh a’ fadadh teine nach do las eatarra)
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To: RDTF

I don’t get the impression that they are lowering standards at all. They are revising how they screen candidates so that the applicants they take into training more closely match the profile of successful Seals. If they take in a better quality of applicant (both mental and physical) they have a better chance of getting more graduates from the training process.


17 posted on 05/01/2007 7:04:55 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: 2banana

In other words, SOF force-levels are very in-elastic.


18 posted on 05/01/2007 7:10:08 AM PDT by Tallguy (Climate is what you plan for, weather is what you get.)
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To: VRWCmember; snowrip

You are correct gentlemen.

I STAND CORRECTED...

Thank you both.


19 posted on 05/01/2007 7:12:33 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Fighting Irish

Read the article again.... no lowering of standards...

They are just changing on how to find qualified individuals.

Actually recruiting instead of just looking within...


20 posted on 05/01/2007 7:14:04 AM PDT by STFrancis
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