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To: Wonder Warthog
> If you do business with the public, you have no such "right". THAT idea was settled during the 1960's. Try telling gov't that no blacks will be served because you're a "private business" and see what happens.

The distinction I'm making is between discrimination on the basis of race (or gender or handicap, etc.) on the one hand, and things like clothing, accessories, etc. which unlike your skin color can be left home or at the door.

As a private citizen I don't like the government telling me what I can and can't do with my private property. If I open it to the public (like a business) I will accept that I have to let -all- the public in. But I do not accept that I also have to let them carry any possession they please into my shop as well. Boom boxes? Broadswords? Wearing only a thong? Banning those things in my shop is within my rights, and personally I think that guns fall more into that category than into personal characteristics like skin color.

As a customer I have the right to take my business elsewhere, and I probably would.

65 posted on 05/01/2007 6:06:05 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored
"But I do not accept that I also have to let them carry any possession they please into my shop as well. Boom boxes? Broadswords? Wearing only a thong? Banning those things in my shop is within my rights, and personally I think that guns fall more into that category than into personal characteristics like skin color."

I disagree. My right to protect myself trumps your right not to "feel uncomfortable", which is the only actual consequence that you face from people with CCW---a group that peer-reviewed studies have PROVEN are statistically much more law-abiding than even the general populace---much less the "criminal class".

Frankly, if I was a business owner, I'd post signs saying "CCW's Welcome Here".

71 posted on 05/01/2007 6:28:16 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: dayglored; y'all
The distinction I'm making is between discrimination on the basis of race (or gender or handicap, etc.) on the one hand, and things like clothing, accessories,

Arms are more than 'accessories'. We have a basic right to carry them, - which shall not be infringed.

etc. which unlike your skin color can be left home or at the door.

You provide arms lockers at your door?

As a private citizen I don't like the government telling me what I can and can't do with my private property.

As a private citizen I don't like the my peers telling me what I can and can't do with my private property. - According to our Constitution, I can carry arms.

If I open it to the public (like a business) I will accept that I have to let -all- the public in. But I do not accept that I also have to let them carry any possession they please into my shop as well. Boom boxes? Broadswords? Wearing only a thong?

Openly carrying or wearing inappropriate items is unacceptable. Carrying properly concealed arms is not only constitutionally acceptable, it is an uninfringeable right.

Banning those things in my shop is within my rights, and personally I think that guns fall more into that category than into personal characteristics like skin color.

Why do you ~want~ the 'right' to ban concealed arms? Why do you think guns fall into such an objectionable "category"?

80 posted on 05/01/2007 6:54:06 AM PDT by tpaine (" My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia)
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