Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

No one can drive a dad to belittle his little girl; it was his choice
St. Paul Pioneer Press ^ | 04/28/2007 | CONNIE SCHULTZ

Posted on 04/30/2007 12:35:26 PM PDT by Caleb1411

Every day, I try to remember to thank God for life's many blessings. It's a checklist of sorts:

Health is good.

Check.

Kids are great.

Check.

Never married Alec Baldwin.

Check. Check. Check.

Whew. Some blessings just bring on a boatload of gratitude.

Baldwin is getting lots of attention, but I suspect it's not the kind he was hoping for after he left a vicious voice-mail message attacking his 11-year-old daughter for not answering their prearranged call. The actor packed a lot of vitriol into two minutes and 19 seconds, and it's a message that his daughter surely must be trying to forget. That seems unlikely now that millions of Americans have been able to hear her father's rant, too, on an endless loop of broadcasts on TV, radio and the Internet.

We got to hear Baldwin rant with breathtaking hostility toward his daughter, Ireland. His rage, peppered with profanity, was all her fault, he said. He told her he didn't care that she was a child, and after adding that she didn't have "the brains or the decency of a human being," he ended his poor-Daddy diatribe with this snarling indictment: "You're a rude, thoughtless little pig."

The first time I heard that phone message, my own eyes started to sting. It's the rare woman who can't conjure up memories of her own pre-adolescent insecurities - my own list could wrap around the Earth and end in a bow - and at that moment I wanted to hit the delete button before Baldwin's daughter could check her calls. An irrational response, of course, but you don't call any female a pig and expect logic to reign. How is it that we even know about Baldwin's nasty voice-mail message? Well, an unidentified somebody leaked it to the celebrity Web log TMZ.com. Baldwin's ex-wife, actress Kim Basinger, denies she is that somebody, but suspicions abound in light of the publicly contentious custody battle they have waged since 2002. After five years of their high-flying dirty laundry, the only obvious finding of fact is that an innocent child has become a pawn in yet another ugly divorce.

Now is as good a time as any to remind all you fathers of young daughters just what power you have. The studies are done, the findings conclusive: No matter how much a mother praises her daughter, if a father regularly tells her that she is beautiful, smart and precious, she is far more likely to believe it. In fact, she'll not only believe you, she'll look to marry a man just like you. That ought to scare Baldwin into anger management real fast.

Baldwin apologized for his tirade on his Web site. "I'm sorry, as everyone who knows me is aware, for losing my temper with my child," he wrote. "I have been driven to the edge by parental alienation for many years now."

Someone needs to point out that steering wheel in Baldwin's hands and remind him that he's the one who took the U-turn off the high road. No matter how cruel an ex-wife gets - and some ex-wives rival the spawn of Satan when it comes to cruelty - no one can drive a father to badger and belittle his little girl. He makes that trip on his own.

As for his public apology, it's wasted on us. We aren't the victims here, and the real victim needs a lot of mending. As my mother used to warn, some things you say you can't take back. Your tongue lets loose and from then on you're performing triage, hoping that some day the bleeding will stop.

Of course, the public does have a role here. We have a long memory when it comes to other people's stumbles, which means there's an 11-year-old girl named Ireland who will never be allowed to forget what her father said to her just as she was toeing the cliff of adolescence. That plunge is a lot harder when you're pushed by the guy who's supposed to catch you on the way down.

We don't know what, if anything, Baldwin has learned from his mistake. But maybe, just maybe, some other fathers will take the lesson to heart.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: baldwin; nau
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-97 next last
To: Caleb1411

He will pay his penance by being an advocate for ‘parental alienation’.

What a maroon...


21 posted on 04/30/2007 1:00:03 PM PDT by griswold3 (Don't 'Bob Dole' me in 2008!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Caleb1411
I'm a little surprised by the knee-jerk reaction from a group (us) who fancies ourselves calm and rational.

Personally, I'd like hear the other side of the story.

If the kid really is a snot, it might temper our outrage.

22 posted on 04/30/2007 1:03:12 PM PDT by HIDEK6
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bcsco
Ready, aim, fire!:)


23 posted on 04/30/2007 1:04:01 PM PDT by xJones
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Paleo Conservative
There are numerous documented examples of his abusive behavior towards fans and paparazzi.

Don't forget his "Stone Henry Hyde" tirade.

24 posted on 04/30/2007 1:05:11 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Caleb1411

I haven’t heard the call and don’t plan to, but it’s hard for me to get too worked up about what some Dad yells at his kid in frustration, even if the Dad is Alec Baldwin. If the kid’s mom isn’t making a huge deal out of it the kid has probably forgotten it by now.


25 posted on 04/30/2007 1:05:11 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Caleb1411
calling a girl a pig at that age, just starting puberty when your self image is EVERYTHING is equal to calling your 13 yro old son a wimpy faggot to his face....

those kinds of words are like a dagger to the heart of a very young person.....calling them little hitheads would be more appropriate if you're into calling children names, which I am not....

26 posted on 04/30/2007 1:06:39 PM PDT by cherry
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Caleb1411
calling a girl a pig at that age, just starting puberty when your self image is EVERYTHING is equal to calling your 13 yro old son a wimpy faggot to his face....

those kinds of words are like a dagger to the heart of a very young person.....calling them little hitheads would be more appropriate if you're into calling children names, which I am not....

27 posted on 04/30/2007 1:06:41 PM PDT by cherry
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: xJones

THAT’S THE ONE I SAW!!!!!!!! It must be true then :)


28 posted on 04/30/2007 1:07:11 PM PDT by bcsco
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: HIDEK6
If the kid really is a snot, it might temper our outrage.

Nope! Not for what he said, nor the way he said it. Sorry, there's no excuse for that kind of behavior from a father toward his daughter (or son, for that matter).

The guy's a jerk. There's no excuse for his behavior. None!

29 posted on 04/30/2007 1:09:40 PM PDT by bcsco
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: bcsco

Yes, but it’s on your computer screen really. Make it a straight merciful shot to the hard drive, and say a prayer.;)


30 posted on 04/30/2007 1:11:34 PM PDT by xJones
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: HIDEK6

The kid is 11, so no matter what kind of ‘snot’ she is, the degree of venom was inappropriate.


31 posted on 04/30/2007 1:12:20 PM PDT by najida (Just call me a chicken rancher :))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: DuncanWaring

“Don’t forget his “Stone Henry Hyde” tirade.”

Just in case anyone wants to read it again, this is from www.celiberal.com:

“They voted on one article of impeachment already. And I come back from Africa to stained dresses and cigars and this and impeachment. I am thinking to myself, in other countries they are laughing at us 24 hours a day and I’m thinking to myself, if we were in other countries, we would all right now, all of us together, [starts to shout] all of us together would go down to Washington and we would stone Henry Hyde to death! We would stone him to death! [crowd cheers] Wait! Shut up! Shut up! No shut up! I’m not finished. We would stone Henry Hyde to death and we would go to their homes and we’d kill their wives and their children. We would kill their families. [stands up, yelling] What is happening in this country? What is happening? UGHHH!”


32 posted on 04/30/2007 1:13:27 PM PDT by clearlight ("I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula"-Muhammad)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: xJones
Yes, but it’s on your computer screen really.

Nah. The one I saw was outside the window. I'd never shoot my computer screen (or the HDD). A flying pig outside; well, that's something else again :)

33 posted on 04/30/2007 1:13:45 PM PDT by bcsco
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: cherry

Yeah, I see an eating disorder in that kids future :(


34 posted on 04/30/2007 1:14:00 PM PDT by najida (Just call me a chicken rancher :))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Caleb1411

No one who loves their kids says stuff like that to them. The court should slap him with a permanent injunction and let Ireland cut off any further relationship with the a**hole — forever, if she so desires (except Ireland should retain a claim on the bastard’s assets if and when the Lord sends him home... And we all know where that is and it ain’t North).


35 posted on 04/30/2007 1:21:03 PM PDT by LibWhacker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: jackieaxe
She got yelled at, big deal!

The wounds he inflicted on his daughter will never heal. They aren't 'just words'.

Believe me, I know!

36 posted on 04/30/2007 1:21:14 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: bcsco
I said, it might temper our outrage.

Please read before exploding.

37 posted on 04/30/2007 1:30:16 PM PDT by HIDEK6
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: najida
I wasn't talking about Baldwin's venom, I was talking about our outrage.

And I do recall other threads where some of us were suggesting that 11 year-old girl packs that commit homicides should be referred to as crimiinals rather than "girls."

Don't give me this 11 year old innocent stuff.

38 posted on 04/30/2007 1:33:25 PM PDT by HIDEK6
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Caleb1411

Enough of the whining claptrap over a Dad angry at his kid.

Just maybe the little girl was being an inconsiderate little pig and needed to be told so.

Neither you. I nor anyone but her Dad really knows what the heck went.

I dislike the guys politics.. I think he is another big mouth media sack. But He can raise his kid any way he sees fit..other than beating her with bat or the like.

Why did the She Hag Mom put this out in the public?

For her own selfish self centered purpose.

That tells me more about this case and what a lying manipulative, vindictive sack of human crap the Mom is than anything else.. She is the problem and is using the child as a weapon to harm the Father..She just did and stand self convicted by the release of the tape.

A much more serious and significant fact than in moments anger some Dad calling his daughter a little pig.

W


39 posted on 04/30/2007 1:38:11 PM PDT by WLR
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: HIDEK6

In this case,
the kid didn’t kill anyone that I know of....
She didn’t deserve what happened to her...

Personally,
I hope AB is never allowed near her again.

He’s scum, and she’s pretty much as I can tell, just a kid.


40 posted on 04/30/2007 1:39:17 PM PDT by najida (Just call me a chicken rancher :))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-97 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson