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Funny, what colleges teach these days
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER ^ | Thursday, April 26, 2007 | CHRISTINE FREY

Posted on 04/26/2007 1:20:32 PM PDT by Sopater

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In a recent lecture, Rifas discussed one of the most famous graphic novels, Art Spiegelman's "Maus," which tells the story of the Holocaust with Jews depicted as mice and Germans as cats. He noted the number of Jews killed each day during World War II and how that compared with the daily casualties from the Iraq war and the recent killings at Virginia Tech.

It would be interesting to know how the numbers were compared and what numbers were used. It would also be interesting to know who was deemed responsible for the number of casualties in Iraq. It is already clear who was responsible for the casualties in Europe during WWII and for the casualties at Virginia Tech. Is someone being compared to Hitler and Cho? I thought this was a course on comics. Sounds like a bad joke to me.
1 posted on 04/26/2007 1:20:33 PM PDT by Sopater
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To: Sopater
Maus is an absolutely stunning piece of work and completely worthy of study on a collegiate level. It ought to be required reading, IMHO.
2 posted on 04/26/2007 1:22:44 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Sopater
"What makes comics unique is their combination of drawings and writings."

Yeah, what an innovative, cutting edge concept...


3 posted on 04/26/2007 1:26:00 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: Sopater

The comparison with Mao would be more appropriate.


4 posted on 04/26/2007 1:26:17 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: Sopater
Hope he's using Scott "Zot" McCloud's Understanding Comics as a textbook. No finer guide to the inner workings of the artform anywhere, and it's all done in comic panels!
5 posted on 04/26/2007 1:30:01 PM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Big dog, big dog, bow-wow-wow! We'll crush crime, now, now, now!)
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To: kinoxi
Meanwhile, the rest of the world continues to put their people through our universities and pump out the doctors, engineers and research scientists.
6 posted on 04/26/2007 1:32:30 PM PDT by outofstyle
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To: Sopater

There have been classes on The Beatles, jazz, etc for years. Comics are a much more legitimate topic than “afro american studies” “feminist studies”, etc. They are a form of art.

Worst. Death. Ever. -Comic Book Guy


7 posted on 04/26/2007 1:32:39 PM PDT by The Worthless Miracle (I think Jamie Dupree is annoying.)
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To: GodBlessRonaldReagan

Good book, and never forget Eisner’s ‘Comics & Sequential Art,’ a classic resource also.

Actually, almost anything by Eisner is classic. ;-)


8 posted on 04/26/2007 1:36:43 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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It seems like most 4-year colleges are requiring all students to take some sort of art class nowadays.

I’d rather take something like this, then the course in Art History I did take.


9 posted on 04/26/2007 1:36:43 PM PDT by Ursine_East_Facing_North
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To: HitmanLV

Amen! Eisner is the man!


10 posted on 04/26/2007 1:37:41 PM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Big dog, big dog, bow-wow-wow! We'll crush crime, now, now, now!)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Just think of all the monks put out of work by Gutenberg. ;>)


11 posted on 04/26/2007 1:40:17 PM PDT by DeFault User
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The leftist intelligentsia have their students study America as if it were criminally reprehensible... or more accurately, a reprehensible criminal who has not yet been brought to justice.
12 posted on 04/26/2007 1:40:19 PM PDT by johnny7 ("Issue in Doubt." -Col. David Monroe Shoup, USMC 1943)
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"Just think of all the monks put out of work by Gutenberg."

I doubt they even noticed the difference in their paychecks...;-)

13 posted on 04/26/2007 1:42:52 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: Billthedrill

My 6th grader just read it. I started it but then he had to take it back to school. I think I’ll ask him to check it out again so I can finish.


14 posted on 04/26/2007 1:44:12 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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To: Billthedrill
Maus is an absolutely stunning piece of work and completely worthy of study on a collegiate level. It ought to be required reading, IMHO.

I don't have a problem with teaching comics in college, but I do have a problem with the teacher comparing the daily death toll in Iraq with that of the holocaust or the VT shootings, unless his point was that American soldiers are doing what they can and must do to try and put an end to the killing in Iraq. The article was rather vague on how the comparison was made.
15 posted on 04/26/2007 1:45:37 PM PDT by Sopater (All of the evidence supports the truth!)
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I’d rather take something like this, then the course in Art History I did take.

Let me guess...Endless slides of paintings of baby Jesus by guys whose names end in vowels?

16 posted on 04/26/2007 1:47:57 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: GATOR NAVY; Billthedrill

Here is a college resource and study guide for Maus: http://www.history.ucsb.edu/faculty/marcuse/classes/33d/33dTexts/maus/MausResources.htm


17 posted on 04/26/2007 1:48:13 PM PDT by Sopater (All of the evidence supports the truth!)
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but I do have a problem with the teacher comparing the daily death toll in Iraq with that of the holocaust or the VT shootings, unless his point was that American soldiers are doing what they can and must do to try and put an end to the killing in Iraq.

If I was to guess, I'd say that it would be along the lines of "You think Iraq or VT are bad? More people died every ten minutes in the Holocaust--for years"

18 posted on 04/26/2007 1:51:54 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: Joe 6-pack

That’s illuminated text but the text and illustration are ultimately working independent of each other.


19 posted on 04/26/2007 1:58:20 PM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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"but the text and illustration are ultimately working independent of each other."

? By independent do you mean physically (i.e. the text is not in a "speech bubble") or the subject matter of the text is independent from the subject matter of the miniature? Such is not always the case...

20 posted on 04/26/2007 2:02:36 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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