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Symposium to honor Lee, villain or 'the noblest ever' ?
Washington Times ^ | April 25, 2007 | Robert Stacy McCain

Posted on 04/25/2007 10:11:37 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur

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To: Non-Sequitur

Lee freed the fmily slaves as soon as he inherited them. That is more than Grant did,a dn freeign all of them is more than Lincoln ever did.

General Lee was a great American from a family of great Americans. His uncle was the one who wrote the resolution on independence.


61 posted on 04/25/2007 11:34:26 AM PDT by TBP
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To: Non-Sequitur

Lee freed the fmily slaves as soon as he inherited them. That is more than Grant did, and freeing all of them is more than Lincoln ever did or hoped to do.

General Lee was a great American from a family of great Americans. His uncle was the one who wrote the resolution on independence.


62 posted on 04/25/2007 11:35:03 AM PDT by TBP
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To: T.Smith

Yes, you are right upon reflection. And Lighthorse was Richard Henry Lee’s brother. The only team of brothers, I think, to sign the Declaration.

That’s a pretty proud family tree.


63 posted on 04/25/2007 11:35:18 AM PDT by ConservativeDude (")
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To: Non-Sequitur
If Terrible Tommy DiLorenzo is going to be there then there must not be much history to it.

Still stung by the way he exposed lincoln, eh?

64 posted on 04/25/2007 11:35:48 AM PDT by TBP
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To: ConservativeDude

Another spot on post. Now get back to work! ;)


65 posted on 04/25/2007 11:36:33 AM PDT by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: Ditto

No, it’s actually his yard......yeah, I know, but the whole place, as an entity, is considered hallowed ground.........


66 posted on 04/25/2007 11:37:10 AM PDT by Red Badger (If it's consensus, it's not science. If it's science, there's no need for consensus......)
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To: TBP
Still stung by the way he exposed lincoln, eh?

Is that what you call it?

67 posted on 04/25/2007 11:37:35 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Red Badger
It was an attempt to humiliate Lee.....

And also to impoverish him, by rendering valuless a lot of choice real estate. It was self-righteous Northern spite.

68 posted on 04/25/2007 11:38:23 AM PDT by Romulus (Quomodo sedet sola civitas plena populo.)
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To: ExpatGator
The rampant Federalism we see today is a direct descendant of that conflict and the methods used to end it.

You mean the centralization of the Federal government. Federalism is what we had before.

One of the biggest centralizers of the time was Lincoln, and the GOP was the Big Government party.

Of course, their idea of Big Government woudl seem appealingly small to us today.

And Lincoln's ideas about Reconstruction were better htan those that Stevens and Sumner imposed.

69 posted on 04/25/2007 11:41:23 AM PDT by TBP
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To: ExpatGator
The rampant Federalism we see today is a direct descendant of that conflict and the methods used to end it.

You mean the centralization of the Federal government. Federalism is what we had before.

One of the biggest centralizers of the time was Lincoln, and the GOP was the Big Government party.

Of course, their idea of Big Government would seem appealingly small to us today.

And Lincoln's ideas about Reconstruction were better htan those that Stevens and Sumner imposed.

70 posted on 04/25/2007 11:41:32 AM PDT by TBP
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To: BnBlFlag
In the first place you don’t know what you are talking about. Lee was stationed in West Texas at the beginning of Secession. He took a leave of absence to take care of business affairs at the Arlington Plantation and was home and available for service when the John Brown incident came up.

Lee went to Texas after John Browns raid, which was two full years before Virginia's secession.

71 posted on 04/25/2007 11:42:08 AM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: TBP
Lee freed the fmily slaves as soon as he inherited them. That is more than Grant did, and freeing all of them is more than Lincoln ever did or hoped to do.

George Washington Parke Custis died in October of 1857. Lee signed the manumission papers in late December of 1862. That appears to be 5 years and a bit over 2 months between inheritance and freedom, not 'as soon as he inherited them.' Actually had Lee waited a day or two more the Emancipation Proclamation would have taken the problem of emancipation right out of his hands.

Your comments on Grant and Lincoln are just nonsense.

72 posted on 04/25/2007 11:42:18 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: MamaB
I just found out last week that Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis are in my family tree.

Mine too, cousin!

BTW, Davis was the son-in-law of President Zachary Taylor.

73 posted on 04/25/2007 11:46:12 AM PDT by TBP
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To: ConservativeDude
(It would help if the Democrats would just disappear, also).

Lincoln had to deal with disloyal Democrats back then too.

That party is nothing if not consistent.

74 posted on 04/25/2007 11:47:44 AM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: G-Bear
Lee was a traitor...Lee should have been hung...

Neither Robert E. Lee, nor the other Confederate officers were tried for treason. In a nation of laws that matters.

75 posted on 04/25/2007 11:48:43 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Romulus
In the Revolutionary War, the so-called "rebels" called themselves "Patriots".

Do you note some irony in that sentence?

76 posted on 04/25/2007 11:50:20 AM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Yes. Lincoln was a centralizer who was interested in centralizing the Federal government. He started the era of Big Government.


77 posted on 04/25/2007 11:50:43 AM PDT by TBP
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To: TBP
Lee freed the fmily slaves as soon as he inherited them. That is more than Grant did,a dn freeign all of them is more than Lincoln ever did.

Factually wrong on both charges.

78 posted on 04/25/2007 11:51:36 AM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: Ditto

Lincoln never cared about freeing the slaves and said so himself. He only freed those who were not under hsi control — i.e., those in the part of the Confederacy still under Confederate control.


79 posted on 04/25/2007 11:53:09 AM PDT by TBP
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To: TBP

Yep.
Yep.
Yep.
His desire for reasonable terms was met. He may have been kinder still, but the official policy was not one of demeaning the South. Although, there were those who pursued their own agendas and punished the South in any way they could.


80 posted on 04/25/2007 11:54:20 AM PDT by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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