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The Story of Jessica Lynch
What really happened in Nasiriyah.
the Weekly Standard ^
| April 24, 2007
| Richard S. Lowry
Posted on 04/25/2007 5:48:58 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
As I said he’s drank the kool-aid....(deeply)
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posted on
04/25/2007 8:13:10 AM PDT
by
Valin
(History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
To: Kaslin
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posted on
04/25/2007 8:16:15 AM PDT
by
Former Proud Canadian
(How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
To: Kaslin
This account tracks very closely with the book, I'm A Soldier Too where she makes no claims to heroism. She does say that Lori Ann was the true hero and even turned around to go back and pickup soldiers that were left behind.
To: Kaslin
To the Marines’ amazement, the Army vehicles all had their headlights on. In the Iraqi night, a stream of American vehicles could be seen off to the horizon.
Geez! Didn’t their vehicles have “black out lights” with “Cats Eyes?” At least that’s what we call them in the Air Force!
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posted on
04/25/2007 8:19:54 AM PDT
by
Grizzled Bear
("Does not play well with others.")
To: Kaslin
Walters was later murdered.
Piestewa died from her wounds.
These are the two people who should have been made into heros.
Obviously the media had some sort of agenda with Lynch. Was it “female soldiers are heros too?”
To: Kerretarded
You may want to read this Washington Post article.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A35717-2004Dec4_5.html I'm not sure the money trail is the culprit here. I posted this yesterday so please excuse and "today's" or extraneous information.
Kevin Tillman, Pat's brother in the hearing today was a part of Pat's platoon. He arrived on scene 9 minutes after his brother was killed. He was in "serial-2" behind them coming up the mountain. Yet according to Henry Waxman and other Democrats the Pentagon is responsible. Does that sound logical to you or anyone?
Could the Pentagon or more importantly Karl Rove and President Bush actually conceive of and initiate a story in 9 minutes of his death. There were dozens of witnesses, both American and Afghani, guys very friendly with Pat Tillman and other grunts in this unit. Do you really suppose Kevin didn't figure it out on his own sitting high in the mountains of Afghanistan while others whispered around him?
I have all the pathos on the planet for Kevin Tillman and his family, but I'm beginning to think that Kevin's moral indignation is false. In short, he knew how his brother died. Saw a hero story develop in the press and simply went with it. Five weeks later the DOD burst the bubble with the results of their investigation. He now has to face his mother and father. By mid 2004 the tin foil being wrapped by Howard Dean, John Kerry, Michael Moore, George Soros and the remainder of the Move-On crowd, probably seemed an appropriate way out for the guy.
The above 3
rd paragraph is simply theoretical mind you, but the first two are simply facts.
Another interesting thing to do is a LexisNexis or probably even a Google news search on Pat Tillman starting on April 23, 2004 the day he was killed. All articles quote a military spokesman who basically says Pat Tillman was killed during a firefight. All of that is true and it is published in hundreds of articles printed in papers all across the country. The next day that same quote appears in Sports Illustrated along with a bit more embellishment. Two days later ESPN is talking hero and interviewing Pro-ball players like Jake Plummer who all say what a great guy and hero Tillman was. Three days later everyone is into the mix. Yet funny enough, still 3 days into the story the Pentagon still hasn't said a word except for the initial blurb that P. Tillman was killed. In fact on MSNBC on 4/26/04 3 days later they printed a
Spokesmen at the Defense Department and the Army would not comment Friday, in keeping with a policy that no U.S. casualties of war be identified for at least 24 hours. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4815441
Yeah, something doesn't ring true here, but clearly 3 days after his death the
DOD isn't talking yet every football coach, player, congressman and senator including John McCain and Jon Kyle have given glorious statements of
PT. And you're right, some pencil pusher somewhere started going Hollywood on us, but we call them journalists, not Mr. Secretary or Mr. President.
Please don't misunderstand me. Pat Tillman is truly a hero regardless of how he died. Hell, in my opinion he deserves the CMH and a Silver Star just for giving up a lucrative salary in a very unforgiving business ruled by youth and physical fitness. A sport that I'm sure he knew he would never return
.
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posted on
04/25/2007 8:33:48 AM PDT
by
HawaiianGecko
(A word to the wise ain't necessary -- it's the stupid ones that need the advice.)
To: Badeye
Make over? She looks the same as she did a few weeks ago at a memorial for Lori Piestewa in Arizona.
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posted on
04/25/2007 8:40:40 AM PDT
by
milemark
To: fight_truth_decay
In yesterday's testimony when asked by Darryl Issa who the "they" were in her written testimony (ie: they mislead), she said it was the media. She also said she didn't believe there was any larger conspiracy beyond the media.
In a one on one interview with Jessica Lynch, Newsweek reported this yesterday:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18297391/site/newsweek/
Julie Scelfo: Do you feel like you were exploited by the military?
Jessica Lynch: No, I dont. I felt sort of like that in the beginning, yes. But now, four years later, I dont.
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posted on
04/25/2007 8:41:03 AM PDT
by
HawaiianGecko
(A word to the wise ain't necessary -- it's the stupid ones that need the advice.)
To: massgopguy
Yes, the Bronze Star and I didnt see her give it back John Kerry took it.
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posted on
04/25/2007 8:44:35 AM PDT
by
Loud Mime
(Countdown = A documentary on Keith Olberman's dwindling ratings.)
To: Kaslin
"It seems to me no one forced him to join. He and his brother Pat volunteerd to join."Odds are that Pat decided to volunteer and Kevin followed along to be part of the great adventure.
What I've seen and heard of him since then does not sugest much of a self starter.
(the story posted at #43 opens with "Kevin Tillman joined the Army with his brother Pat, (an Arizona Cardinal) in 2002..." It's got to be embarrassing to always be identified as the other guy's brother.)
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posted on
04/25/2007 8:48:02 AM PDT
by
norton
To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
She is very good looking. I still like to look at her. It makes me feel... calm.
There was a lot of wrongdoing in this affair, but I could never see anything that she personally did wrong. I never understood why people blamed her for the snafu when it all happened while she was in and out of conciousness in a Nasyriah hospital.
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posted on
04/25/2007 8:49:14 AM PDT
by
ichabod1
("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
To: Kaslin
It seems to me that Congressman Waxman and his committee should be investigating how the media perverted the story to build its ratings. It is appalling how little regard some of today's journalists have for the truth.Good point. What exactly IS Nostrilitis Waxman "investigating" in this hearing, anyway?
Lowry implies that the blame for the false stories lies with the media, but I wonder if there were Clintonista feminists still in the DOD who planted the Lynch-as-feminist-hero idea in the MSM's collective[ist] mind.
But certainly the MSM are capable of fabricating stories, then sticking with them. One of the most glaring examples I've seen recently is the media myth that Colin Finnerty, one of the Duke accused, had gone "gay-bashing" in Washington, DC.
By repeating that canard, the MSM ignore the fact that the assault charge against Finnerty was dropped. They continue to slander Finnerty as a "homophobe" -- simply because someone, probably the "homeless" man who was harassing Finnerty's group, claimed Finnerty had yelled the "f" word (i.e. "f_gg_t") at him.
So as Fox News's Neil Gabler told a national audience last week, Finnerty must be guilty of doing SOMETHING to the Duke accuser. Why? ... Because he's a "gay-basher."
All based on a dropped charge that was conjured out of thin air in the first place.
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posted on
04/25/2007 8:51:19 AM PDT
by
shhrubbery!
(Max Boot: Joe Wilson has sold more whoppers than Burger King)
To: HawaiianGecko
Please don't misunderstand me. Pat Tillman is truly a hero regardless of how he died. Hell, in my opinion he deserves the CMH and a Silver Star just for giving up a lucrative salary in a very unforgiving business ruled by youth and physical fitness. A sport that I'm sure he knew he would never return.
No misunderstanding from me. Pat and every American that chose to join after 9/11 is a hero to me. But, yes, something stinks here. Much like how the MSM exaggerated and falsely wrote stories about Jessica Lynch and now DOD, Rumsfeld and who knows who else is going to be paraded in front of Waxman when it is the journalists eager to be the first one to write the glorified story who should be asked why they continue to exaggerate stories.
Just look at how the MSM acted in the press conference at VT when news came that NBC had a package from Cho. "Why don't we get to look at it. That's not fair that NBC gets the scoop and lowly CBS and ABC are left to fend for the crumbs." Every time I think the MSM can't lower their standards any more, they surprise me by sinking even lower.
I must have heard 10 - 15 seconds of Kevin's remarks over and over on the radio yesterday and then they only run a one sentence blurp from the President.
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posted on
04/25/2007 9:08:36 AM PDT
by
Eagle of Liberty
(The United States of America is the only country strong enough to go it alone.)
To: LS
” I absolutely do not understand Pat Tillmans parents. ... But to deliberately torch the legacy of their son and his legend-who would want that for their son?”
If the military had turned a hero into a goat-you could understand a parent’s outrage. And why tie Abu Ghraib to their son’s memory ?
To: highlander_UW
I find it hard to believe that any US military officer whose unit was already preparing/prepared to undertake this rescue mission, would comply with instructions to “Don’t go yet, we need to wait until the film crew’s ready.”
To: Kaslin
And yet, the same media that ran the story with no facts has turned around to accuse the Pentagon of lying and covering up. And Lynch herself has been duped by the left in to giving testimony to that effect.
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posted on
04/25/2007 9:37:21 AM PDT
by
PsyOp
(Without an accurate conception of danger we cannot understand war. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
To: Wild Irish Rogue
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posted on
04/25/2007 9:38:04 AM PDT
by
LS
(CNN is the Amtrak of News)
To: HawaiianGecko
If Pat Tillman had not lived a noteworthy life and died a hero fighting for his country (in retrospect, how is irrelevant), would we have ever heard of this doofus, whatever his name is?
Would we care?
< /interest >
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posted on
04/25/2007 9:45:29 AM PDT
by
Publius6961
(MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
To: GovernmentShrinker
Same here, but that was Waxman’s assertion.
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posted on
04/25/2007 9:47:08 AM PDT
by
highlander_UW
(I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
To: Kaslin
Henry Waxman is dumber than he looks..
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posted on
04/25/2007 9:50:35 AM PDT
by
hosepipe
(CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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