Posted on 04/25/2007 3:41:28 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
This is the start of a series of threads that will be used to expose the truth about Rudy Giuliani in his own words and deeds.
Please post all of the quotes, speeches, interview transcripts, video clips, photos, newspaper/magazine articles, reports, records, statistics, NYC budgets, NYC spending, political appointments, gun grabs, connections to the gun control lobby, lawsuits against gun manufacturers, the truth about crime reduction in NYC, private property grabs, asset forfeitures, abuses of office, individual rights trampling, constitution trampling, violations of public trust, violations of the rule of law, national security risks, failures in security preparedness prior to and after 911, corruption, graft, bribes, favors, union dealings, mob dealings, business dealings leveraged through government contracts and contacts, rainmaking for his business partners, connections to US, Middle East or South American oil and energy companies and law firms that have profited and or will profit from Giuliani's government offices especially if he becomes president, war profiteering, his personal and business finances, his train wreck of a private life and lack of character, lack of qualifications for high office, illegal alien sanctuaries, welfare for illegals, pandering to illegals/illegal alien lobby, support for the abortion and gay rights lobbies, NARAL connections and participation, past and current support for McCain-Feingold, connections and dealings with liberal officeholders or the liberal/socialist caucuses/lobbies, etc, etc, etc, that you can find.
We're primarily interested in the words from his own mouth or primary source records and reports of his deeds/misdeeds. All submissions must contain true facts with documentation and links to source documentation and a link to FR thread on the individual item if available.
We do not need to embellish the record. The ugly truth from his own liberal mouth will impeach his credibility and the reader will be able to disqualify the man from consideration for high office based solely on his own words and deeds.
Here's an example entry:
FOX News | Feb 6, 2007 | Hanity and Colmes
http://www.freerepublic.com/^http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,250497,00.html
HANNITY: Let me move on. And the issue of guns has come up a lot. When people talk about Mayor Giuliani, New York City had some of the toughest gun laws in the entire country. Do you support the right of people to carry handguns?
GIULIANI: I understand the Second Amendment. I support it. People have the right to bear arms. When I was mayor of New York, I took over at a very, very difficult time. We were averaging about 2,000 murders a year, 10,000...
HANNITY: You inherited those laws, the gun laws in New York?
GIULIANI: Yes, and I used them. I used them to help bring down homicide. We reduced homicide, I think, by 65-70 percent. And some of it was by taking guns out of the streets of New York City.
So if you're talking about a city like New York, a densely populated area like New York, I think it's appropriate. You might have different laws other places, and maybe a lot of this gets resolved based on different states, different communities making decisions. After all, we do have a federal system of government in which you have the ability to accomplish that.
HANNITY: So you would support the state's rights to choose on specific gun laws?
GIULIANI: Yes, I mean, a place like New York that is densely populated, or maybe a place that is experiencing a serious crime problem, like a few cities are now, kind of coming back, thank goodness not New York, but some other cities, maybe you have one solution there and in another place, more rural, more suburban, other issues, you have a different set of rules.
HANNITY: But generally speaking, do you think it's acceptable if citizens have the right to carry a handgun?
GIULIANI: It's not only -- I mean, it's part of the Constitution. People have the right to bear arms. Then the restrictions of it have to be reasonable and sensible. You can't just remove that right. You've got to regulate, consistent with the Second Amendment.
HANNITY: How do you feel about the Brady bill and assault ban?
GIULIANI: I was in favor of that as part of the crime bill. I was in favor of it because I thought that it was necessary both to get the crime bill passed and also necessary with the 2,000 murders or so that we were looking at, 1,800, 1,900, to 2,000 murders, that I could use that in a tactical way to reduce crime. And I did.
Free Republic thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1780940/posts
But gun confiscation is what Rudy did and supports, and you defended his actions. Try as you may your wiggling won't get you out of this.
Yes, originally it was anyway.
Would you please quote me, so we can have a discussion about the words I used and the context in which I used them? Geez, you people are scared of every shadow around here lately.
Wow, like I defended the devil or something.
Thank you fellas. It remains a mystery to me.
Luke 22:36: “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”
-—Who are you, and what is it exactly that I am supposed to be guilty of?-—
No need to get paranoid. I’m not the thought police. I’m just saying that people that live in big eastern seaboard cities, particularly NYC, tend to lose sight of things the way they are out in the “countryside”.
-—I’m not defending it, just saying life is a little more complex in a city of 8 or 9 million racially and economically disparate people. Try it sometime.-—
Texas has “shall issue” for carry. Dallas and Houston are as metropolitan and as ethnically diverse as any place on the east coast and they manage to survive without strangling the 2nd Amendment. I used to live in Boston. The general attitude there toward guns and freedom in general is more European than American. It was also one of the most racist places I’ve lived. They need to quit covering for themselves and come out into the light and free air.
I don’t understand your answer. Can you document your claim that all 13 original states specified that they were founded on PROTESTANT Christianity...??!!
Additionally, can you tell me if your point is that conservatives can only be Protestant Christians? Was that your point in bringing that up?
Thank you for the clarification.
See, even Jesus wanted us to be armed and be able to defend ourselves.
What would Jesus do? He’d kick some ass!
Good approximation. I'm not playing your word game; if you support Julie, you have to be anti-Christ, because his agenda is specifically against God's word.
I see he's a New Yorker. Figures...
“Today’s poll is the best I’ve ever seen on this site. Thanks for the great work.”
I particularly liked the results, which frankly surprised me.
I think you’re either ill informed, or simply being cagey about your knowledge regarding the Second Amendment. There is nothing about the Second Amendment that is contrary to common sense.
I think you made your point and it was anti-Catholic.
“u might listen right now to that notorious lefty Sean Hannity on now with Rudy.
just as you might have heard that other lefty Rush citing Rudy several hours ago.”
And both are notorious for carrying the water for the GOP regardless of the the political philosophy being espoused. I like listening to Rush sometimes because he has an interesting perspective on things. And I’ll even quote him from time to time. But when push comes to shove, both would support a tube of toothpaste for President if it had an (R) after it.
“The Rockefeller Republicans don’t care about winning because they ARE Democrats.”
At least a bonafide socialist will be forthright about their plans to steal from you. Something the Rockefeller Republicans won’t. I’d appreciate it if you didn’t malign the fine reputation that Democrats have on FR by associating them with the Rockefeller Republicans.
:-)
Giuliani, after the Empire State Observation Deck shootings.
It seems Rudy G. ran right to Carolyn McCarthy after that one.
You're reading something different than what I posted.
I bolded "Protestant Christian Government" not just protestant, because those are the words that were in all thirteen constitutions. (still in most of them) Perhaps you're being anti-protestant? ;o)
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