Posted on 04/25/2007 3:41:28 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
This is the start of a series of threads that will be used to expose the truth about Rudy Giuliani in his own words and deeds.
Please post all of the quotes, speeches, interview transcripts, video clips, photos, newspaper/magazine articles, reports, records, statistics, NYC budgets, NYC spending, political appointments, gun grabs, connections to the gun control lobby, lawsuits against gun manufacturers, the truth about crime reduction in NYC, private property grabs, asset forfeitures, abuses of office, individual rights trampling, constitution trampling, violations of public trust, violations of the rule of law, national security risks, failures in security preparedness prior to and after 911, corruption, graft, bribes, favors, union dealings, mob dealings, business dealings leveraged through government contracts and contacts, rainmaking for his business partners, connections to US, Middle East or South American oil and energy companies and law firms that have profited and or will profit from Giuliani's government offices especially if he becomes president, war profiteering, his personal and business finances, his train wreck of a private life and lack of character, lack of qualifications for high office, illegal alien sanctuaries, welfare for illegals, pandering to illegals/illegal alien lobby, support for the abortion and gay rights lobbies, NARAL connections and participation, past and current support for McCain-Feingold, connections and dealings with liberal officeholders or the liberal/socialist caucuses/lobbies, etc, etc, etc, that you can find.
We're primarily interested in the words from his own mouth or primary source records and reports of his deeds/misdeeds. All submissions must contain true facts with documentation and links to source documentation and a link to FR thread on the individual item if available.
We do not need to embellish the record. The ugly truth from his own liberal mouth will impeach his credibility and the reader will be able to disqualify the man from consideration for high office based solely on his own words and deeds.
Here's an example entry:
FOX News | Feb 6, 2007 | Hanity and Colmes
http://www.freerepublic.com/^http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,250497,00.html
HANNITY: Let me move on. And the issue of guns has come up a lot. When people talk about Mayor Giuliani, New York City had some of the toughest gun laws in the entire country. Do you support the right of people to carry handguns?
GIULIANI: I understand the Second Amendment. I support it. People have the right to bear arms. When I was mayor of New York, I took over at a very, very difficult time. We were averaging about 2,000 murders a year, 10,000...
HANNITY: You inherited those laws, the gun laws in New York?
GIULIANI: Yes, and I used them. I used them to help bring down homicide. We reduced homicide, I think, by 65-70 percent. And some of it was by taking guns out of the streets of New York City.
So if you're talking about a city like New York, a densely populated area like New York, I think it's appropriate. You might have different laws other places, and maybe a lot of this gets resolved based on different states, different communities making decisions. After all, we do have a federal system of government in which you have the ability to accomplish that.
HANNITY: So you would support the state's rights to choose on specific gun laws?
GIULIANI: Yes, I mean, a place like New York that is densely populated, or maybe a place that is experiencing a serious crime problem, like a few cities are now, kind of coming back, thank goodness not New York, but some other cities, maybe you have one solution there and in another place, more rural, more suburban, other issues, you have a different set of rules.
HANNITY: But generally speaking, do you think it's acceptable if citizens have the right to carry a handgun?
GIULIANI: It's not only -- I mean, it's part of the Constitution. People have the right to bear arms. Then the restrictions of it have to be reasonable and sensible. You can't just remove that right. You've got to regulate, consistent with the Second Amendment.
HANNITY: How do you feel about the Brady bill and assault ban?
GIULIANI: I was in favor of that as part of the crime bill. I was in favor of it because I thought that it was necessary both to get the crime bill passed and also necessary with the 2,000 murders or so that we were looking at, 1,800, 1,900, to 2,000 murders, that I could use that in a tactical way to reduce crime. And I did.
Free Republic thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1780940/posts
Look - just because you are using a keyboard - does not give you license to use vile language. Really - just discuss things in a civil manner.
Yeah, it's a pretty sad state for the GOP when the front runner can decline five points to a ridiculously bad 28% and still lead by double-digits.
At this point, I think "none of the above" has the biggest lead of all.
“Why, to flush out dissenters. Naturally.”
Hmm. Hadn’t considered that. Thanks.
I prefer to think of myself as a realist, but my wife calls me a hardened cynic. Oh well.
Look - just because you are using a keyboard - does not give you license to use vile language.
Which words were inappropriate? Surely stealing was the correct word. The fact that he stole from people sacrificing for such a cause only makews it worse. Using bed as a verb is rather mild in such a situation. Slut must be the offending term. If she had demanded money for services rendered, I could have used whore but I don’t believe she did. Is there a better word for such women?
The question is why you would think that is a good thing.
Forgive me if I don't support electing a liberal as President.
You and I have a different definition of "great." Obviously.
I usually exclude crooks and thugs.
“As for me, I am gaining knowledge regarding Rudy G., so when I go the my caucus I will know enough to argue with the Rudy sympathizers...”
That’s valid, I guess. I suppose that’s what caucus’ are for. Since I’m not a party man, this makes no matter to me.
I suppose there are people who post or lurk here who don’t know Rudy’s stance, past and present, on the issues. I have yet to encounter one but, hey, who knows.
“Rudy sympathizers”
See? That’s just the kind of thing I’m talking about. No offense but I’m not sure why you think anyone in your caucus you refer to in that manner would even consider your opinions on Rudy. It’s not enough to simply disagree with someone these days. Anyone who doesn’t share the exact same views must be demonized in some fashion.
Some FReeper names are hard to figure out. Yours on the other hand....Blackbird.
"First--Place greater responsibility upon social service workers, charities and all those having medical contact with the people and create a nationwide system of physical, mental and moral reports which would afford the government and every community a basis for intelligent action."Second--Appoint a commission of three or five in every community to decide if, couples should have progeny and determine when sterilization, isolation or free-will abstinence should be enforced.
"Third--I might grant pensions to those denied the right to have children, as a recognition of their contribution toward race betterment, just as we grant pensions to citizens who serve their country in other ways. The commission would also conduct educational campaigns to establish what sterilization and isolation really are and emphasize that the former is not a punishment, does not unsex the subject and causes no change beyond the elimination of parenthood.
"Fourth--Put the responsibility upon every mother to reduce maternity mortality. ... I would compel them to take measures to correct their health.
"Fifth--I would make parenthood a privilege. They would have to work for it.
"Sixth--Economics would be a factor. A man's earning potentialities, not his actual income at the time of the union, would be considered. I believe in birth control, not birth limitation, except. in certain cases. From the moment of marriage there would be a periodical check-up to make sure that the birth rate and financial standing were proportionate.
"Seventh--Treatment of children is important. Many parents prove they are unfit to have them. Parents who beat children 'because they have the right to would not be allowed to have any more.
"Eight--Certificates for parenthood, issued with the marriage license, would be compulsory. To obtain them both man and woman would undergo physical, mental and moral tests; family medical and mental history would be recorded and financial ability to rear children. There would be a black list and a white one. Those on the white list, bearing no children, would be privileged to adopt some. No child should be in an institution. ... "
oooopsy! Back to bible school for you. Blackbird.
For anyone who thought you may be one of US on the right, another liberal self exposed! Blackbird.
It's probably just ignorance. One can be a big proponent of birth control and still see Sanger as the witch she was. Rudy should know better.
If you were Mayor of NYC, what specifically would you change about the gun laws here?
What kind of billion dollar socialist police-state budget does it take to make you feel safe?
That they ain't getting our guns.
BUMP!
-- Rudy Giuliani, New York Times, July 9, 1992
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