Posted on 04/25/2007 3:41:28 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
This is the start of a series of threads that will be used to expose the truth about Rudy Giuliani in his own words and deeds.
Please post all of the quotes, speeches, interview transcripts, video clips, photos, newspaper/magazine articles, reports, records, statistics, NYC budgets, NYC spending, political appointments, gun grabs, connections to the gun control lobby, lawsuits against gun manufacturers, the truth about crime reduction in NYC, private property grabs, asset forfeitures, abuses of office, individual rights trampling, constitution trampling, violations of public trust, violations of the rule of law, national security risks, failures in security preparedness prior to and after 911, corruption, graft, bribes, favors, union dealings, mob dealings, business dealings leveraged through government contracts and contacts, rainmaking for his business partners, connections to US, Middle East or South American oil and energy companies and law firms that have profited and or will profit from Giuliani's government offices especially if he becomes president, war profiteering, his personal and business finances, his train wreck of a private life and lack of character, lack of qualifications for high office, illegal alien sanctuaries, welfare for illegals, pandering to illegals/illegal alien lobby, support for the abortion and gay rights lobbies, NARAL connections and participation, past and current support for McCain-Feingold, connections and dealings with liberal officeholders or the liberal/socialist caucuses/lobbies, etc, etc, etc, that you can find.
We're primarily interested in the words from his own mouth or primary source records and reports of his deeds/misdeeds. All submissions must contain true facts with documentation and links to source documentation and a link to FR thread on the individual item if available.
We do not need to embellish the record. The ugly truth from his own liberal mouth will impeach his credibility and the reader will be able to disqualify the man from consideration for high office based solely on his own words and deeds.
Here's an example entry:
FOX News | Feb 6, 2007 | Hanity and Colmes
http://www.freerepublic.com/^http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,250497,00.html
HANNITY: Let me move on. And the issue of guns has come up a lot. When people talk about Mayor Giuliani, New York City had some of the toughest gun laws in the entire country. Do you support the right of people to carry handguns?
GIULIANI: I understand the Second Amendment. I support it. People have the right to bear arms. When I was mayor of New York, I took over at a very, very difficult time. We were averaging about 2,000 murders a year, 10,000...
HANNITY: You inherited those laws, the gun laws in New York?
GIULIANI: Yes, and I used them. I used them to help bring down homicide. We reduced homicide, I think, by 65-70 percent. And some of it was by taking guns out of the streets of New York City.
So if you're talking about a city like New York, a densely populated area like New York, I think it's appropriate. You might have different laws other places, and maybe a lot of this gets resolved based on different states, different communities making decisions. After all, we do have a federal system of government in which you have the ability to accomplish that.
HANNITY: So you would support the state's rights to choose on specific gun laws?
GIULIANI: Yes, I mean, a place like New York that is densely populated, or maybe a place that is experiencing a serious crime problem, like a few cities are now, kind of coming back, thank goodness not New York, but some other cities, maybe you have one solution there and in another place, more rural, more suburban, other issues, you have a different set of rules.
HANNITY: But generally speaking, do you think it's acceptable if citizens have the right to carry a handgun?
GIULIANI: It's not only -- I mean, it's part of the Constitution. People have the right to bear arms. Then the restrictions of it have to be reasonable and sensible. You can't just remove that right. You've got to regulate, consistent with the Second Amendment.
HANNITY: How do you feel about the Brady bill and assault ban?
GIULIANI: I was in favor of that as part of the crime bill. I was in favor of it because I thought that it was necessary both to get the crime bill passed and also necessary with the 2,000 murders or so that we were looking at, 1,800, 1,900, to 2,000 murders, that I could use that in a tactical way to reduce crime. And I did.
Free Republic thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1780940/posts
My vote will never go to Rudy - dunno who, but not Rudy.
Thanks, Jim, for doing this.
Rooty’s own words and previously held positions(when he wasn’t trying to appeal to conservatives) make him unqualified to lead the party.
Ohhh this is good stuff Jim.
Hope you got some sleep last night?
Today’s poll is the best I’ve ever seen on this site. Thanks for the great work.
Angry archivists and historians denounced the unprecedented hijacking of public property to private hands. Tom Connors, of the Society of American Archivists, said the transfer seemed part of a movement to "create barriers to the American citizen's right to know what their governments are doing."
The families of the police and fire rescuers who died in the attack balked at Giuliani's plan to take up to a year to dole out the money, with his new organization billing $2.2 million in anticipated administrative expenses (including six-figure salaries for friends he appointed as officers). The families argued that the fire union had far more quickly distributed $111 million with an estimated administrative cost of just $30,000.
Under embarrassing pressure from the victims' families, unions and state Attorney General Elliot Spitzer, Giuliani backed down. He promised to distribute the money within 60 days and fund his overhead from new donations. The families of the deceased rescuers, the real heroes of the September 11 attacks, received a one-time benefit of about $230,000 each from the Giuliani-privatized fund in 2002. That year, the former mayor earned some $8 million in speaking fees alone, more than $650,000 per month.
New York conveniently forgot the 1996 federal ban on sanctuary laws until a gang of five Mexicansfour of them illegalabducted and brutally raped a 42-year-old mother of two near some railroad tracks in Queens. The NYPD had already arrested three of the illegal aliens numerous times for such crimes as assault, attempted robbery, criminal trespass, illegal gun possession, and drug offenses. The department had never notified the INS.
On the issues: Liberal Party endorsement of Giuliani
National Review: Rockefeller quote
New York Observer: Reagan Republican quote
New York Observer: Republican convention quote
New York Observer: Goldwater quote
Jim,
I live in NYC and feel very safe here. The gun issue is hard for me, because I have never owned one. My interest in owning one is increasing, but only after I get rigorous training and discpline. If/when I own a gun, I want it to be above board, legal, and use it in the company of the very best men and women.
My question to you is: If you were Mayor of NYC, what specifically would you change about the gun laws here? Which of our laws would you attempt to get rid of, and which new ones, if any, would you implement? And, if your efforts had negative consequences, what would your response to the City be, both in words and actions, as Mayor?
Read and understand and abide by the second amendment. End of discussion.
Still, I can’t get excited for the McCainiac.
Sorry, Jim, way too simplistic. I can’t let you off that easy, with all due respect.
You’ve been placed in charge of a racially and economically diverse city, of 8 or 9 million. You’re in charge of the police force. People are dying around you. You have to take practical measures with the existing laws to change them and reduce crime.
The world we live in is highly complex. To navigate this reality with competence is the essence of wisdom.
Here’s another “for instance”: In NYC, as Mayor, would you allow anyone without a criminal record to own any kind of gun they desired? Would they have to register it? What restrictions, if any, would you place an ownership and registration (you can say ‘none’ if you like)? Do
Please read the 2nd Ammendment and tell me where it says the government can regulate handguns for ANY reason.
It specifically says it CAN’T.
And I should point out, not just hand guns, but ANY arms.
“...And, if your efforts had negative consequences, what would your response to the City be, both in words and actions, as Mayor?”
The overwhelming historical evidence is that negative consequences are little if any.
You should sign up, if not already for the “Dave Lone Ranger” “Ping” list for many a heart warming story of 2nd Amendment “Positives”.
??????????? Thanks for that.
Hey, the second amendment is the rule of law. You don’t like it, amend it or repeal it. Good luck with that. Even then, the right to self-defense is an unalienable right and a person still has the right to keep and bear arms. If you can’t stand the danger of living in a big city and don’t wish to arm yourself, move out! Any mayor who violates the constitution and violates your unalienable individual right to self-defense by grabbing your guns on the pretense of public safety (or for any other reason whatsoever) is a power abusing liberal. Rudy is a power abusing liberal. Get over it.
Giuliani to NARAL- 65% Of GOP Want To Remove Pro-Life Plank
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1823017/posts
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Rudy is perfect for NY City...but not for the country. at the time he came into office NYC was a cesspool mismanaged by the ‘dink’.
But he is so anti-individual freedom, as to be unelectable in the national Republican primaries.
He should consider Senator from NY. he would be more conservative than either Putzhead or Shrillary...an improvement as it were.
I would not however want him for NY Governor either. He would get rubber stamped by the Republican state senate and it would be all his liberal baggage(gun control, gay marriage, etc.) being approved by both houses. look at it like this... Cuomo couldnt get any anti gun bills past the state senate, but Pataki (that little two faced turd)could and did with the help of Joe Bruno who backed his party’s governor.
I almost forgot - the peak number of annual murders pre Giuliani was about 50,000. Nationally, it dropped to about 12,000. With a 65 - 70% reduction, New York City was actually behind the curve.
Giuliani in 1989: There must be public funding for abortion
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWIrlKujUKk
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Giuliani’s Abortion Views Have Not Changed
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Rudy Giuliani tells Dana Bash he stands by his pro-choice beliefs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX6YTkGZ060
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Giuliani on Abortion
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Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani on Abortion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL29j08AlH0
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Rudy Giuliani on partial birth abortion
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http://ncregister.com/site/article/2017
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giZx5i3Ntv0
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