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To: Jim Robinson
Rudy is part of the conservative movement? Since when? Do you even know what the conservative movement stands for? Do you have any idea whatsoever how much damage Rudy is doing to the conservative movement?

The 'Rudy' problem is a very big one. The history of conservative politics in Canada is a good example of just how big it can get. Canada used to have three major parties - the Liberals (socialists), the PCs (once-upon-a-time conservatives) and the NDP (moonbats). The dilemma for the Canadian conservative voter was that the ideologies of any PC candidate was exactly the same as that of any Liberal one, barring minor details. The PC party was a party of Rudies. Voting on a party basis was completely useless - the conservative voter had to examine individual candidates irrespective of party allegiance, to see if any semblance of conservative representation was possible. Eventually, the PC party totally self-destructed, which was a good thing, because who needs two liberal parties anyway? And if American conservatives don't expel their Rudies, the same fate awaits the Republican party.

439 posted on 04/24/2007 8:40:35 PM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
The history of conservative politics in Canada is a good example of just how big it can get. Canada used to have three major parties - the Liberals (socialists), the PCs (once-upon-a-time conservatives) and the NDP (moonbats). The dilemma for the Canadian conservative voter was that the ideologies of any PC candidate was exactly the same as that of any Liberal one, barring minor details. The PC party was a party of Rudies. Voting on a party basis was completely useless - the conservative voter had to examine individual candidates irrespective of party allegiance, to see if any semblance of conservative representation was possible. Eventually, the PC party totally self-destructed, which was a good thing, because who needs two liberal parties anyway? And if American conservatives don't expel their Rudies, the same fate awaits the Republican party.

13 straight years of Liberal Party rule was not a good thing for Canada. It wasn't good for the Canadian military, which was decimated by Liberal budget cuts. It wasn't good for the Canadian taxpayer, whose taxes were raised by the Liberal government. And it wasn't good for Canadian conservatives, whose taxes were used to pay for useless "multicultural" programs and who had same-sex marriage rammed down their throats, first by liberal, activist judges on the courts, then by some provinces, and ultimately by the Liberals in the federal government. About the only Canadians that 13 years of Liberal rule WAS good for were members of the Liberal Party of Canada, who made a fortune through government graft and corruption.

Since the Canadian schism (which actually occurred before the 1993 election, and entailed Western conservatives walking away from the PC and starting their own party), despite the PC and Reform parties getting back together, Conservatives still have not been able to get elect majority government. They are running the country (albeit fairly successfully so far) on a tightrope, and simply cannot pass as much conservative reform as most conservatives would want due to lack of votes.

Canada is NOT a model to be looking at, unless you want conservatives to spend over a decade in the wilderness here.
449 posted on 04/24/2007 9:16:36 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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