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Giuliani Criticizes a U.S. Crackdown on Illegal Aliens
NYTimes Archives ^ | 08/23/1995 | David Firestone

Posted on 04/21/2007 7:51:46 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

Immigration restrictions gathering steam in the Republican-led Congress would have "catastrophic social effects" in New York City and other large cities, Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani said yesterday. He charged that the proposals violated basic decency and could throw as many as 60,000 immigrant children out of the city's schools and onto the streets.

Once again taking sharp exception with the dominant conservative wing of his own party, Mr. Giuliani said in an interview that the proposed crackdown on illegal immigrants was deliberately intended to play to the public's worst fears of foreigners, and did not take into consideration the positive effects of immigrants on cities like New York.

"It's based on an irrational fear of something different, something strange, that somehow they're going to take something away from us," he said. "A lot of it is just undifferentiated fear of foreigners, of people who appear to have different values or different ways of doing things."

In June, the Congressional Task Force on Immigration Reform, a Republican-dominated panel appointed by Speaker Newt Gingrich, issued a report containing dozens of recommendations on restricting illegal immigration.

The proposals, now being written into bills that are at various stages of consideration in House committees, would require public hospitals to report illegal aliens who seek medical treatment and would require public schools to turn away students who are in this country illegally. The report, which Mr. Gingrich endorsed, is similar to Proposition 187, a measure approved by California voters last November that would cut off most public benefits to illegal aliens.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: giuliani; illegalimmigration; rudy; stoprudy2008
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To: All

Do me a favor, we’ve all stated Rudy’s not it. Who’s record is the best re: illegals?

Or point me to a site... this isn’t solving our problem.

I read Fred’s moderate, don’t know for sure... so who?


41 posted on 04/21/2007 9:05:08 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray for Tony Snow, Liz Edwards, cancer patients, their families and support.)
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To: AliVeritas; pissant

It would, in my honest opinion, be either Duncan Hunter or Tom Tancredo. Not sure about Ron Paul (I don’t know off-hand).


42 posted on 04/21/2007 9:09:36 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

“Just one more article on Rudy’s tough stance on illegal immigration...or lack of it, I should say.”

Yeppers. Guns, Abortion, and now this... third ones the charm and that’s it for me.


44 posted on 04/21/2007 9:10:40 PM PDT by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: James W. Fannin

45 posted on 04/21/2007 9:11:03 PM PDT by ASA Vet (http://www.rinorepublic.com)
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To: NonValueAdded

I heard him talk about this last fall, immediately changed my mind about him.


46 posted on 04/21/2007 9:11:42 PM PDT by libbylu
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To: kots

Fred is essentially a bait and switch for Rudy.


47 posted on 04/21/2007 9:14:25 PM PDT by James W. Fannin
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To: kots

kots wrote: “to be honest: Fred Thompson’s comments in the 1990’s were identical.. or maybe different standards apply to Fred?”

That’s being honest? Okay, show us some Fred Thompson quotes from the 90’s that were identical to Rudy’s. (Sound of crickets chirping........)


48 posted on 04/21/2007 9:16:46 PM PDT by Josh Painter (Draft Fred Thompson: the grassroots "surge that will transform the Republican race." - The Hill)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
the proposed crackdown on illegal immigrants was deliberately intended to play to the public's worst fears of foreigners,

Eleven years ago and only recently does he adopt a "git tuff" aleged stance against the illegals?

TILT... TILT... TILT...

49 posted on 04/21/2007 9:16:48 PM PDT by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, MMP AZ 2005, TxMMP El Paso Oct+April 2006 TxMMP Laredo - El Paso)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

They like liberals, why would a conservative do that?
Oh, nevermind :)


51 posted on 04/21/2007 9:22:59 PM PDT by conserv8ive1 (Rudy and the Bots...blasting off to oblivion.)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Just have a look at mexico.That country will never get out of the toliet.


52 posted on 04/21/2007 9:46:38 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: isthisnickcool

OUCH! and so right.


53 posted on 04/21/2007 9:49:31 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: imahawk
Just have a look at mexico.That country will never get out of the toliet.

And I am tired of them flushing it over the Rio Grande...

54 posted on 04/21/2007 9:51:17 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
If we could survive Carter and Bubba, we can survive Hillary.

Thousands of Americans on 9/11 did not survive Clinton.

55 posted on 04/21/2007 9:55:55 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Truth shall set you free))))
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Thousands of Americans on 9/11 did not survive Clinton.

They didn't survive Giuliani either...

Those Islamics were in the country illegally...

56 posted on 04/21/2007 9:57:45 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

What did Giuliani have to do with the 9/11 hijackers being in this country? His job wasn’t to enforce immigration policy.


57 posted on 04/21/2007 10:02:42 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Truth shall set you free))))
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Ah Rino Rudy. At this point though if the few holdouts on here haven’t figured out that he is a lib with a sordid personal life and a tendency to flip-flop they never will.


58 posted on 04/21/2007 10:06:06 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

” would have “catastrophic social effects” in New York City and other large cities, Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani said “

Translation: My big contributors would have to pay Americans real wages that would eat into their already obscene profits.


59 posted on 04/21/2007 10:13:25 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: dsc
It drives me crazy that we have to sit helplessly by and watch this leftist win the Republican nomination

I see a lot of polls on how well he might do in an election, but none on winning the nomination. I know that is hard to poll, but myself, I think he has not got a chance.

60 posted on 04/21/2007 10:21:03 PM PDT by Northern Alliance
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