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To: Jim Robinson

“Well, Mr Giuliani has the exact same position on abortion, gay rights, gun control, illegal aliens, etc, as Mrs. Clinton so if you vote FOR him, you’re voting for abortion. There goes your vaunted pro-life and conservative bona fides.”

Well, you have to vote for somebody. With HRC you get abortion — plus all the rest.

I guess you are saying you would let Hillary Clinton win before you would vote for someone who has a pro-abortion record.

I hope it doesn’t come to that, but if it does I suspect you will change your mind by November 2008.

Or in the years after.


7,861 posted on 04/24/2007 5:03:10 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Sam Hill
There are good reasons to have a pro abortion, anti gun open border POTUS from the Democrat Party rather than from the Republican Party not the least of which is that a Republican Congress would fight the Democrat tooth and nail while they would tend to acquiesce to the wants of the Republican.

Personally, I'll never vote for Rudy Giuliani for anything, Hillary or no Hillary. Nor can I understand how any ostensible pro lifer can. He crapped on his religion and his personal beliefs to become Mayor of New York. He was pro life when he lost to Dinkins and then used unborn babies as steps up the ladder to the Mayorship. A disgraceful human being.

7,874 posted on 04/24/2007 5:08:27 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Sam Hill

>>Well, you have to vote for somebody. With HRC you get abortion — plus all the rest.

I guess you are saying you would let Hillary Clinton win before you would vote for someone who has a pro-abortion record.<<

Its too bloody early to give up on getting a quality conservative nominee. The first vote of the first primary has yet to be cast.

Presidential front runners have a way of fading. The first election I followed closely was 1976. I don’t think Jimmy Carter was even polling at this point while the Republicans were locked into Ford out of loyalty despite some very non-Republican ideas like wage and price controls.

The Democrats saw their front runners were shallow and found in Carter a liberal who could sell himself as a Southern conservative Democrat who promised to cut taxes and balance the budget while saying all the right things about race.

The Republicans missed their chance when a true conservative came along. They passed on Reagan, got stuck with Ford and lost to Carter.

The rest is history.


8,221 posted on 04/24/2007 8:00:32 PM PDT by gondramB (God only has ten rules, uncle Hank, and he has a much bigger house.)
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