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To: tarheelswamprat
No has been banned for their convictions; they were banned for their dishonesty and incivility in promoting them.

Incivility. Hmmm.

Is that sort of like telling someone, "Up yours, asswipe," when all they've done is lay out a case for their candidate?

6,776 posted on 04/24/2007 9:23:26 AM PDT by cicero's_son
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To: cicero's_son
Is that sort of like telling someone, "Up yours, asswipe," when all they've done is lay out a case for their candidate?

We've always bashed liberals here. Unless you've missed the Zot threads.

Anyone pushing Rudy while bashing Fred ain't much better than the brain-dead DUombies that compose our serial retreads.

6,781 posted on 04/24/2007 9:25:59 AM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: cicero's_son

“all they’ve done is lay out a case for their candidate?”

That is a lie.


6,787 posted on 04/24/2007 9:31:28 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (No longer Republican - forever a conservative)
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To: cicero's_son

Telling the owner he prefers Hillary is laying out the case for your candidate?


6,795 posted on 04/24/2007 9:35:46 AM PDT by garv (Conservatism in '08 www.draftnewt.org)
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To: cicero's_son
No has been banned for their convictions; they were banned for their dishonesty and incivility in promoting them.

Incivility. Hmmm.

Is that sort of like telling someone, "Up yours, asswipe," when all they've done is lay out a case for their candidate?

That outburst was unfortunate, but your premise is false because 'laying out a case for their candidate' was not 'all they had done'.

These threads have had many heated discussions and unfortunately there have been many excesses and instances of frustrated people on all sides 'losing their cool' throughout this and other related threads. And, as I pointed out, great latitude was given to this. It required the combination of both the incivility AND the dishonesty to reach the critical mass.

6,805 posted on 04/24/2007 9:43:47 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat (I love dialoging. It's a great way to pick up chicks! (*obscure cinema refence - all rights reserved)
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To: cicero's_son
quidnunc:
For conservatives I guess the choice is between getting 75%-80% of what we want or getting nothing.

Like it or not, the candidates preferred by this board — Fred Thompson, Newt Gingrich, Duncan Hunter, et al — are certain losers.

Jim:

I’d long for 75%. Hell, Rudy isn’t even 25% of what I want and he’s 100% of what I outright reject!

And quidnunc, "laying out the case for his candidate", responds by explaining how Rudy is actually 75% of what Jim wants, getting him banned.

No wait, that's not what happened. What happened was quidnunc responding with:

So you prefer Hillary, then?

Now, to be fair, that's probably the best quidnunc could DO to make a case for his candidate: "Vote for Rudy, he's not Hillary" (she looks better in a dress).

But if I questioned your opinion of your candidate being "80%" conservative, and you responded by telling me I wanted Hillary to be president, I'd be tempted to respond belligerantly.

People who have tried to defend Giuliani honestly, or raised honest issues about other candidates, are still here posting away, or at least not banned (a few simply stopped posting, but are still active).

People dissenting from the purges, dissenting from the arguments of conservatives, dissenting from the supposed mob, are still here, because they haven't been too uncivil (you are still here).

Jim took some real time to write a long and articulate vision of what HIS SITE was going to be. quidnunc ignored it, and attacked Jim for not being willing to throw out all those principles he just articulated simply to keep Hillary out of the white house. And he did it by calling Jim a Hillary supporter.

6,826 posted on 04/24/2007 9:53:20 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: cicero's_son
"Up yours, asswipe," when all they've done is lay out a case for their candidate?

LOL

6,882 posted on 04/24/2007 10:25:52 AM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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