[mkjessup]

Also, a great quote!! And from the man who I credit with my becoming a pro life conservative!!

Now consider THIS quote:

" If you agree with the church, there’s no difference between murdering a one-year-old and eliminating a fetus – it’s the same act. There is a moral consequence to the elimination of a fetus, but it’s not the same thing as murder.”
-- Rudy Giuliani, 1987

The idea of someone with THAT view of human life sitting in the same Office once occupied by Ronald Reagan should make any REAL American want to puke their guts out.

Would Reagan endorse such a depraved view as Giuliani's?

ABSOLUTELY NOT!

[upsdriver]

No arguement here! I didn’t need to be convinced by all Rudys other faults, I disqualified him for president on his abortion stance alone!

[Knitting A Conundrum]

Rudy’s view on things is the view Europe went for. Give up liberty and self-determination for authoritative control, but a perhaps more pleasant environment. But the state sneaks in and erodes the moral underpinnings that allow you to stand free. You pay a price. When the right to murder the unborn is considered a virtue, and the right to say Merry Christmas is considered a vice, something is wrong with that picture.

“This is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle becomes a precedent for a second; that second for a third; and so on, till the bulk of society is reduced to mere automatons of misery, to have no sensibilities left but for sinning and suffering... And the fore horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in it’s train wretchedness and oppression.” Thomas Jefferson