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I'm breaking my silence to point out that you're flat out wrong on just about everything you posted here, "Charles." It isn't the Rudy supporters who are belligerent, rather it's his detractors. And the "other site" you supposedly followed us to is not a place where folks are "plotting" against "real conservatives. " You're exhibiting the kind of paranoia or other mental illness that seems to be affecting most on FR these days. To understand the attitudes and behavior of most of the remnant on FR these days, one needs only to read the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 4th ed.

You've gotten what you want -- you've all driven the pragmatic conservatives from FR. Why don't you stop obsessing about where they've all gone and what they're all doing, and enjoy your barren political existence.

You are welcome to claim the label of “pragmatism” if you want and call us belligerent if you want.

If you read earlier in this thread, you saw me apologize to someone for my heated rhetoric. I support Fred Thompson as a pragmatist. Hunter or Tancredo would be my choices, except after following politics for forty years I know that the lower house doesn’t produce presidents. It’s hard enough for the upper house to do it.

So I support Fred Thompson, whom I could nitpick about the twenty percent of the time he’s done something I don’t like. He’s electable. He’s got the intangibles, and I want to win.

Now your guy has none of that. He’s an eighty percenter the other way. We start with that as a baseline. On every major issue he is a Democrat, not a Republican, unless you consider Lincoln Chafee and Susan Collins to be the mainstream of our party.

I want you to note that I have shown you no hostility. For months I have posted similar explanations of why we don’t want Rudy. I get one sentence answers. mostly insults, calling me a nazi or an “all or nothing” or a “wingnut,” which is what they call us at DU.

Rudy is a liberal. I will fight hard to keep him from winning the nomination. A choice between a bronchitis and pneumonia does not appeal to me.

You've gotten what you want -- you've all driven the pragmatic conservatives from FR.

That is not correct. Those recently departed are not conservative. Liberal or libertarian, yes. Conservative, no.

They shall not be missed.

Yes, yes, you're right and everyone else is wrong. The 92% of registered members who disagree with you and your syncophantic buddies are all deranged.

I've got news for you, you all could have slinked silently away and no one would have noticed or given a rat's rectum. The annointed 20 can now all discuss pragmatism in excruciating and unchallenged detail.

Have fun.

“You’ve gotten what you want — you’ve all driven the pragmatic conservatives from FR.”

Wrong. They’ve gotten what THEY wanted. And that was to be ‘zotted’ off the site.

Was it really too hard just to say ‘I disagree and therefore I am leaving this site’?

You've gotten what you want -- you've all driven the pragmatic conservatives from FR. Why don't you stop obsessing about where they've all gone and what they're all doing, and enjoy your barren political existence.

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You've gotten what you want -- you've all driven the pragmatic conservatives from FR.

Reality is that they made that choice for themselves. But regardless of how it happened, I suspect it's a good thing. FreeRepublic has a mission of advancing conservatism, and undoubtedly the other site has a mission of its own. Better that each one attempts to advance the cause in its own way then have one site's members constantly at odds with each other.

For a note denouncing the claim of belligerance, it was pretty belligerant.

I was, I’ll admit, using a bit of hyperbole about the other site “plotting the overthrow of conservativism”. Anyway, I understand that happens in the secret room which so far as you know I don’t have access to..... :-)

The Rudy supporters have been quite belligerant. I know because I’ve gotten some pretty interesting responses and my posts are rather issues-focused. And I read every rudy thread, so I’ve seen most everything written.

The cutesy “LOL” stuff doesn’t hide the harshness of the “our guy’s in the lead, get used to it, you are all losers, too bad for you” tone of many of the rudy posters.

This site isn’t to cheerlead for a liberal, it’s to push conservative principles.

BTW, I’m not into paranoia. I only mention it to counter the crododile tears for those who seem to have deliberately gotten themselves banned after establishing themselves at the other site, where they seem to do the same things only without having to answer real criticism of thier candidate.

But more power to them, everybody has the right to their own web presence.

I do feel honored that my posts caused you sufficient consternation that you felt compelled to break your silence for me. Thanks. Even if you did so mostly to launch an ad-hominem attack on me suggesting I needed psychiatric treatment.

It would have been more helpful if you would offer actual facts about anything I said that is wrong.

You've gotten what you want -- you've all driven the pragmatic conservatives from FR.

If pragmatism is defined as the concern for practicality over theory or principle, then you're only half right. There's nothing practical about a liberal calling himself Republican.