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To: EternalVigilance; Rb ver. 2.0
With the greatest of respect toward you both, may I gently suggest that the choice of the term "fraudulent" was a bit imprecise? "Hypocritical," yes. The fellow who penned it was a slaveowner at the time, after all.

EV, as you point out, the phrase was so accurate that we spilled the blood of 600,000 Americans validating it. The principle proved more enduring than the hypocrisy but the price was a war that reverberates to this day.

And Rb, as you point out, the Founders had to make a great moral compromise in order to ensure that the Constitution passed, which was to place that principle on hold. It didn't stay so, it was too powerful for that.

Best to you both.

15,398 posted on 04/29/2007 5:50:33 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill; Rb ver. 2.0

Best to you to, Bill. Thanks for your very astute input.

One more comment: I’ve generally found that those who are the most critical of the founding generation’s shortcomings in this area are themselves hypocritically doing something far worse: they are empowering the killing of 3 - 4000 American babies every day through abortion.

Rb ver. 2.0, I have no idea whether this is true in your case. I don’t know you.


15,412 posted on 04/29/2007 5:56:04 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: Billthedrill
Jefferson tried but as you stated there was a compromise to get the DoI passed.
From the rough draft.....

he has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating it's most sacred rights of life & liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating & carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere, or to incur miserable death in their transportation thither. this piratical warfare, the opprobrium of infidel powers, is the warfare of the CHRISTIAN king of Great Britain. determined to keep open a market where MEN should be bought & sold, he has prostituted his negative for suppressing every legislative attempt to prohibit or to restrain this execrable commerce: and that this assemblage of horrors might want no fact of distinguished die, he is now exciting those very people to rise in arms among us, and to purchase that liberty of which he has deprived them, & murdering the people upon whom he also obtruded them; thus paying off former crimes committed against the liberties of one people, with crimes which he urges them to commit against the lives of another.

15,416 posted on 04/29/2007 5:59:19 PM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: Billthedrill

As usual, you demonstrate your consummate wisdom. And I mean that with a capital “C”.


15,418 posted on 04/29/2007 6:01:10 PM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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