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To: Billthedrill
Jefferson tried but as you stated there was a compromise to get the DoI passed.
From the rough draft.....

he has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating it's most sacred rights of life & liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating & carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere, or to incur miserable death in their transportation thither. this piratical warfare, the opprobrium of infidel powers, is the warfare of the CHRISTIAN king of Great Britain. determined to keep open a market where MEN should be bought & sold, he has prostituted his negative for suppressing every legislative attempt to prohibit or to restrain this execrable commerce: and that this assemblage of horrors might want no fact of distinguished die, he is now exciting those very people to rise in arms among us, and to purchase that liberty of which he has deprived them, & murdering the people upon whom he also obtruded them; thus paying off former crimes committed against the liberties of one people, with crimes which he urges them to commit against the lives of another.

15,416 posted on 04/29/2007 5:59:19 PM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: michigander
Yes indeed, and I don't think it's hijacking the thread (impossible at this point anyway) and actually somewhat pertinent - that was a perfect example of what happens when principle is sacrificed on the altar of practical politics. You end up paying dearly later. But if it hadn't been, mightn't the War of Independence have failed and things have worked out less well for all concerned?

There is no good answer to that, which is precisely why the current controversy and this thread exist. Can we in good conscience sacrifice the principles in question which conservatives hold dear and Giuliani does not, in favor of the overall practical objective of avoiding another Clinton presidency? And if we do, what price will we pay for it? And if we don't, what price will we pay for that?

Broadly speaking, when in doubt, go with principle, because that's what principles are for. I think what bothers a lot of people is the prospect of a general election wherein those principles are already lost no matter which way we vote. That's what this ruckus is all about. IMHO, of course.

15,440 posted on 04/29/2007 6:17:58 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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