Do you really expect me to do that?
No.
Do you really expect me to do that?
No.
Yes you will. The Rudybots demand it. Rudy will be us a glorious new world. You have not choice you must vote for Ruuuuuuuudy
Mr. Robinson,
First off, THANK YOU, or the forum you have provided us, the conservatives in this country.
I hear and understand the concerns and ‘anger’ you have expressed about the possible ‘Giuliani’ nomination. I agree with them.
I hold this site as a gift.
I had hoped that W would move the country closer to being what is was originally intended to be, and used to be. Domestically, W has been a disaster. Foriegn policy wise, he’s pretty much spot-on.
Social Security reform-failed.
Reduction of Government-Failed
Border control-Failed
Return of education to the States:abolition of DOEd-failed(non-started?)
Prescription Drug Benefit?- Well, that flew. The Lefties hated it because it didn’t go FAR ENOUGH.
So, should we now support Giuliani, just to keep the HildyBeast out of office? Rudy is NOT a conservative. With all due respect to those on FR the support him, he is just NOT someone that should carry our banner forward.
Who? I hope Fred Thompson formalizes his candidacy. I will support that with time and treasure. At the same time I hope that more REAL conservatives will speak out, unafraid of PC-constraints. Unafraid of the MSM/DBM/lefty media. And go for office.
I agree Jim, and FReepers, do not support Rudy. He is NOT of us. He will not move us towards our goal. He will, I think, betray us.
Just my 0.02 to the founder of the finest website on the planet.
Buh^ump.
“Do you really expect me to do that?”
Um... No.
What do I win?
Amen!
No, I don’t and hope you never will..may God grant you and your family strength and courage. Forever a FreeRepublic.
No...
NEVER!!!
One fine post Jim. Thank you.
Bump.
No sir. The men and women of FREE REPUBLIC should continue to do what they have always done and come to represent in the Conservative world ... patient and persistent, aerticulate and eloquent, no compromise agitation from within, for all the principles you have stated.
Honetly, if the founding fathers suddenly showed up today, there would be much they would be proud of and there would probably be much they would be disappointed in. But if I recall, they held many long and spirited debates during the time of the founding documents. I'm quite sure that many walked away very proud of some things and very disappointed in others.
As I recall there was some discussion a few years ago about support for the Republican presidential candidate by FreeRepublic. As I recall the discussion was about whether or not FreeRepublic would become known as a Republican web site instead of a Conservative Web site. Since that time there has been a lot of support for Republican candidates at FreeRepublic, not because they have been so good but because they have been so much better than the alternative even when they were bad.
Undoubtedly, FreeRepublic has drawn some Republicans, in contrast to Conservatives, because of that. Something might need to be done about that. Letting the debate continue among the posters might serve you best, at least for now.
But that does not mean you have to let the name "FreeRepublic" be associated with candidates of whom you disapprove. Instead let it be associated with opposition to candidates of whom you disapprove even more.
Most of the time my vote has not been "for" someone for president.
Most of the time my vote has been "against" someone.
I consider the person in favor of whom I cast my vote to be the lesser of two bad choices.
Sometimes it's a matter of taking a step in the wrong direction as opposed to a leap in the wrong direction.
You don't have to step out in favor of someone of whom you disapprove in order to step out against someone of whom you disapprove even more.
In closing, support for a third party at the national level would be a leap in the wrong direction. It is too likely to lead to another 48% president of the wrong kind. Note that I wrote "at the national level". Support at the lower levels is well indicated. Seems to me most third parties want to go for the top position too soon. They don't have a foundation suitable to make them anything but a spoiler.
Finally, "The Constitution is not a suicide pack." Is FreeRepublic? The answer should be "no". Don't let them get you down, you're doing good. And good luck keeping up with all the responses I expect your post is going to draw.
There are only two people that I can think of that are truly conservative AND HAVE ENOUGH NAME RECOGNITION to fit the bill.
One is Thompson and the other is Gingrich.
The policies of the country are supposed to be determined and expressed in one place: The Congress
The president’s duties are to faithfully enforce and execute the laws of the United States.
If Rudy could get elected and follow that plan, I would have no problem. But over the years, the presidency has been changed and we are drifting from the plan.
However, I cannot in good conscience do anything that would put either Hillary or Obama in the White House. Rudy may support evil ideologies, but I don’t think the man himself is evil. I don’t envision Rudy finding ways to silence the opposition in the way I am certain Hillary and Obama (as the puppet of the far left) will.
Hillary and Obama are pure evil. I believe they are demons. If the choice is between misguided and evil, I’ll go with misguided.
We will continue the good fight, JimRob. It looks like the best shot may be Fred Thompson. There will never be another Reagan, but he is a good man.
There comes a time when you have to draw a line in the sand. Rudy’s supporters on this board have insinuated that FR only represents the view of a minority of “conservatives”. If our views are in the minority on the subject of Rudy, I think it is only because we are more informed.
What Rudy’s supporters can’t deny is that we are a strong voice in the conservative internet community and we receive a fair share of media coverage outside the internet. I’m all for using that voice to just say NO to Rudy and his liberal views. The Rudy supporters need to hear loud and clear that we just aren’t going to stand here and be run over by them. Conservatives need to see that someone does really believe that we can win with a conservative candidate before the lie that our only choice is Rudy or Hillary is so firmly embedded that it becomes truth.
I see you drawing a line, Jim and I’m standing behind you.
I'm not here to support anything else.
Socialism is simply antithetical to the republic our Founders established.
I won’t - I will not support socialism, and I won’t support anybody that doesn’t strongly support the second amendment.