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Oh, come on..

Okay! Those of you who are parents raise your hands... have you EVER gotten pissed off at your child, lost your temper, and went on a rant, saying things you didn’t really mean? I did - and my children grew up FINE.

Second question - if you found yourself losing your temper and going on aforementioned rant, would you think it’s fair if your less-than-beloved ex-wife decided to use a tape of that temper tantrum to deny you permanent access to your own child?

Personally, Alec Baldwin is one of my least favorite people - but I’ve gotta stick up for him here. The very fact that he’s so pissed off at her for NOT being in the right-place-at-the-right-time to get the call, and evidently went to some trouble to be able to make that call in the first place shows me he DOES care about his daughter.

Let’s take the fact that we hate his politics and want to see him screwed out of the equation.

have you EVER gotten pissed off at your child, lost your temper, and went on a rant, saying things you didn’t really mean?

Sure. But I never demeaned them or my wife. And the things I said that I really didn't mean had to do with threatened restrictions I knew at the time were too harsh.

Let's not compare this rant with typical parent/child behavior or communications. This was way off the board and uncalled for.

Don’t take me for a point I’m not making. In fact I agree generally with what you’re saying.

Every parent makes mistakes and this poor girl is stuck in the middle of a battle between her two liberal hollyweirdo parents and for all we know is siding with, or being used as a tool, by her mother.

However, no one should ever call their daughter a “pig” under any circumstances. There is simply no excuse for that.

However, I never said and I don’t believe that means he should lose visitation rights or have child protective services come pay him a visit or anything else. It just means he’s an A-HOLE, and we all knew that before this story.

This little girl was unlucky enough in the lottery of life to draw two selfish, liberal hollyweirdos as parents and there is a 99.9% chance she is being psychologically screwed up as a result. Some Hollywood therapist is putting a down payment on a new yacht as we speak.

Of course we’ve all lost our tempers with our kids, but to speak to an 11-year-old like this? No way! Have you talked to your kids like that? What Alec said was horrid. That said, I think it was a low blow for it to be aired. (I have to admit to getting a little bit of glee out of seeing him humiliated, though.)

Dude, This goes far beyond losing your temper. Alec has a history of abusing Kim, verbally (even in public) and physically. And while I may not be a parent, I was on the receiving end of such tirades far too often in my childhood, which can leave deep scars.

Given his history, and the threat to come out there and straighten her up; if I were the mom, I do whatever was necessary to keep that lunatic away.

I know a lot of fathers get screwed by their ex's in divorce and custody battles, but in this case, Alec has proven (IMHO) yet again, that he is unfit.

You know, I have definitely said things to my children in anger that I wouldn’t want taped. Calling a 12 year old girl a pig, however, is inexcusable. The rest of it I could see a custodial parent saying to a child they have been completely responsible for. But it sounds like Alec is a weekend dad, he really should have more control over himself. All the kid did was not pick up the phone.

BS. Baldwin doesn’t go out of his way for anyone but himself. In a world of cellphones, how “out of your way” do you have to go to make a phone call to your kid? I wouldn’t want this person to ever be within physical contact with my kid ever again. Only thru taped messages, etc. He is out of control, and that kid wouldn’t stand a chace against him if he got physical to match his anger on the phone.

Excuse me but parents who speak to their childeren like this are NOT normal...

you can claim your kids grew up just fine but that gives me pause to ponder your definition of “FINE”

This behavior is the exception and NOT the rule...if you think it’s understandable to speak to your kid this way then you have some serious social problems that you don’t seem to be aware of.

The fact that he was so angry at his daughter for not picking up the phone shows me that his perspective is all about Alec and nothing about his daughter.

If I was in the same position, I would have to ask myself what in my character is causing my daughter to not want to talk to me.

This is a seriously dysfunctional person and I have serious qualms about anyone who finds this understandable.....

And no, I have NEVER gotten so angry with my kids that I have cursed at them or spoke in such a way and I would say the majority of the people on this forum have not either.