Sources: Virginia Tech gunman left note

Chicago Tribune ^ | April 17, 2007 | Aamer Madhani

[3AngelaD]

BLACKSBURG, Va. -- The suspected gunman in the Virginia Tech shooting rampage, Cho Seung-Hui, was a troubled 23-year-old senior from South Korea who investigators believe left an invective-filled note in his dorm room, sources say.

The note included a rambling list of grievances and ended with the words "Ismail Ax" in red ink on the inside of one of his arms.

[DemEater]

Depressed people take Prozac. Depressed people kill. It doesn’t necessarily follow that depressed people kill because of Prozac.

[Wallace T.]

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, to paraphrase Sigmund Freud. The murderer was likely just a lunatic, as many mass murderers have been: Howard Unruh, Charles Whitman, and Klebold and Harris, for example. Only 0.08% of the population of South Korea is Muslim. The odds of him being a jihadist are extremely small. The killer’s religious background is more likely Buddhist or Christian, the dominant religions among. The “Ismali Ax” marking may well have been the ravings of a lunatic, as meaningless as the stream of consciousness babble that came from a dying Dutch Schultz or the scribblings of the Son of Sam or David Koresh.

[penowa]

"It's not necessaryily a 'cause-and-effect' thing though."

Is that why there are new guidelines about prescribing Prozac and other anti-depressants to teenagers? Because it apparently makes some violent instead of depressed?

[pa mom]

Maybe he wanted someone to check his email accts.

[beeber]

[dfwgator]

"He was very quiet, always by himself," neighbor Abdul Shash said of the gunman.

"He was a quiet man." - Rodney Dangerfield

[sweetiepiezer]

A firearm AND PROZAC!

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HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

America Over-Dosed:
The Role Of Anti-Depressants
In The Columbine Tragedy
& Other Bizarre Killings
http://www.erichufschmid.net/Columbine/Columbine-Bollyn.html

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Minnesota Red Lake School Shooter Jeff Weise, age 17 - taking Prozac
http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com/casualties.htm

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Primary care doctors prescribe SSRI-antidepressants to millions of adults, adolescents and children, certainly not only for treatment of depression anymore. SSRI’s are prescribed for school phobias, bed wetting, eating disorders, sleep disturbances (insomnia), nail biting, hair pulling, headache, gambling addiction, alcohol addiction, back pain, stomach upset, premenstrual syndrome, etc., and even to “feel better then well”. SSRI’s have become all purpose “feel good pills”, nowadays, in the year 2000. Unfortunately many doctors are unaware of the major consequences and some of them don’t even seem to care. They argue that the positive effects of SSRI’s far outweigh their negative effects. Nothing could be further from the truth.
http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com/introduction.htm

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Sam Manzie, 15, attacked, raped and strangled to death an 11-year-old boy selling items door to door for the PTA. He was on Paxil.

Kip Kinkel, 14, killed his parents and went on a shooting rampage at his Springfield, Ore., high school. He was taking Ritalin and Prozac.

Jeremy Strohmeyer raped and murdered a 7-year-old girl one week after he started taking Dexedrine.

Columbine High School’s Eric Harris was taking Luvox.

T.J. Solomon, 15, who attended Heritage High School in Conyers, Ga., was taking Ritalin when he opened fire on his classmates, wounding six.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/7/2/181622.shtml

Let us not focus on the guns and start focusing on the real killers of our young people. It is the drug companies.

[Fish Speaker]

From Wikpedia - Ismaili
The Ismāʿīlī (Urdu: اسماعیلی Ismāʿīlī, Arabic: الإسماعيليون al-Ismāʿīliyyūn; Persian: اسماعیلیان Esmāʿīliyān) branch of Islam is the second largest part of the Shī'a community, after the Twelvers (Ithnāʿashariyya). The Ismāʿīlī get their name from their acceptance of Ismāʿīl ibn Jaʿfar as the successor-Imām to Jaʿfar aṣ-Ṣādiq, wherein they differ from the Ithnāʿashariyya, who accept Musa al-Kazim, younger brother of Ismail, as their Imam.
Though there are several sub-groupings within the Ismailis, the term in today's vernacular generally refers to the Nizārī Ismāʿīlī community, who are followers of the Aga Khan and the largest group among the Ismailis.

[Ellesu]

Wonder what else they will find in his room, computer, from people he associated with, other writings he may have done?

[Southerngl]

From Wikpedia - Ismaili The Ismāʿīlī are found primarily in South Asia, Syria, Saudi Arabia,[1] Yemen, China, Tajikistan, Afghanistan and East Africa, but have in recent years emigrated to Europe and North America.[2] The Ismāʿīliyya and the Twelvers both accept the same initial Imams from the descendants of Muḥħammad through his daughter Fāṭima az-Zahra and therefore share much of their early history. However, a dispute arose on the succession of the fifth Imam, Jaʿfar as-Sadiq.[/quote] *** Oh My God.

[jonascord]

He's just "troubled". When my oldest went to college, I was talking to the head of the campus police, a fellow Marine. He related that, before classes started, his officers and the dorm resident advisors spent a day and a night going thru a series of drills on possible scenarios. Who to call, actions to take, areas of responsibility, that sort of response.

One of the biggies was what to do with a possible suicide attempt. There was a big arguement during the debrief when the RAs figured that the Campus police were just thugs so they didn't bother to call it in, and they would just "talk it out" with the kid on the balcony.

I would bet a large sum that the Liberal Arts RA in this case just figured that he or she could handle a little thing like arson, and mass murder.

[Just sayin]

Now that the identity is known, how long before television news has someone who knew this person come on for a live interview and how many interviews happen before the question is asked “Was this person involved with Islam or Muslims?”

[nmh]

Salvation is only through Christ; not some pervert, Mohammad.

[dfwgator]

[Rita Hayworth]

Thank you, I appreciate it.

Maybe he was just a wackjob with poor spelling.

[dljordan]

“A firearm AND PROZAC!”

At Columbine it was firearms and Paxil.

[Enosh]

"Ismael’s Ax (or weapon)?"

Makes no sense, Ishmael was an archer. (Genesis 21:20)

[Jack Black]

Or, it will be redacted.

[Jack Hammer]

For what it’s worth, the story can be found here:

http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/ibrahim.htm

[Cedar]

“He set a couple of FIRES in his dorm room and they didn’t EXPEL him??”

That’s what I thought too! I’m beginning to think a lot of the crime in this country is due to such lax attitudes and measures on the part of authorities at many levels.

What has happened to the people in charge? Are there any people left with common sense?

Setting fires to public property is no longer punishable at universities?