[IrishMike]

Heads will Roll,
an ounce of prevention would have resulted in zero dead at VT .
Forget the less than spectacular security/ police work post 7:15 AM. Completely another matter, that was the second failure.
The first failure was the shooter being actually a student,
in light of his known history.

[woodbutcher]

Heads will Roll,
an ounce of prevention would have resulted in zero dead at VT .
Forget the less than spectacular security/ police work post 7:15 AM. Completely another matter, that was the second failure.
The first failure was the shooter being actually a student,
in light of his known history.
___________________________________________________

So what?

There are people with problems in schools today. High school, college, etc.

Drag out the statistics on how many kill themselves. In fact, this was a form of suicide.

How many work in the Post office?

How many drive trucks?

How many of our population are taking some form of antidepressant?

It definitely is correct that the guy had problems and problems that should have been treated. But how to do that without going over the edge and sending everyone to a shrink?

You, for instance, believe that you are a perfectionist; demand perfection from others, distrust the government, have a Napoleon Complex....etc.

Therefore, being in a position to do so, I commit you to the loony bin.

I don’t think that is the world reasonable people want to live in.

It is correct that somehow this guy should have been separated from the university. However, to condemn VT for not doing something that they have no process for doing, that I will bet that does not exist in any major university in this country, demanding that head roll, is counterproductive to getting to a solution.

A much smarter plan would be the one I heard expressed on the radio this morning. Have one person to whom all complaints of mental problems are to be referred. That person then has the knowledge that there have been multiple complaints. Then give him authority to do something about it.

[woodbutcher]

Heads will Roll,
an ounce of prevention would have resulted in zero dead at VT .
Forget the less than spectacular security/ police work post 7:15 AM. Completely another matter, that was the second failure.
The first failure was the shooter being actually a student,
in light of his known history.
___________________________________________________

So what?

There are people with problems in schools today. High school, college, etc.

Drag out the statistics on how many kill themselves. In fact, this was a form of suicide.

How many work in the Post office?

How many drive trucks?

How many of our population are taking some form of antidepressant?

It definitely is correct that the guy had problems and problems that should have been treated. But how to do that without going over the edge and sending everyone to a shrink?

You, for instance, believe that you are a perfectionist; demand perfection from others, distrust the government, have a Napoleon Complex....etc.

Therefore, being in a position to do so, I commit you to the loony bin.

I don’t think that is the world reasonable people want to live in.

It is correct that somehow this guy should have been separated from the university. However, to condemn VT for not doing something that they have no process for doing, that I will bet that does not exist in any major university in this country, demanding that head roll, is counterproductive to getting to a solution.

A much smarter plan would be the one I heard expressed on the radio this morning. Have one person to whom all complaints of mental problems are to be referred. That person then has the knowledge that there have been multiple complaints. Then give him authority to do something about it.

[woodbutcher]

Heads will Roll,
an ounce of prevention would have resulted in zero dead at VT .
Forget the less than spectacular security/ police work post 7:15 AM. Completely another matter, that was the second failure.
The first failure was the shooter being actually a student,
in light of his known history.
___________________________________________________

So what?

There are people with problems in schools today. High school, college, etc.

Drag out the statistics on how many kill themselves. In fact, this was a form of suicide.

How many work in the Post office?

How many drive trucks?

How many of our population are taking some form of antidepressant?

It definitely is correct that the guy had problems and problems that should have been treated. But how to do that without going over the edge and sending everyone to a shrink?

You, for instance, believe that you are a perfectionist; demand perfection from others, distrust the government, have a Napoleon Complex....etc.

Therefore, being in a position to do so, I commit you to the loony bin.

I don’t think that is the world reasonable people want to live in.

It is correct that somehow this guy should have been separated from the university. However, to condemn VT for not doing something that they have no process for doing, that I will bet that does not exist in any major university in this country, demanding that head roll, is counterproductive to getting to a solution.

A much smarter plan would be the one I heard expressed on the radio this morning. Have one person to whom all complaints of mental problems are to be referred. That person then has the knowledge that there have been multiple complaints. Then give him authority to do something about it.

[bwteim]

BS