Posted on 04/17/2007 5:21:32 AM PDT by IrishMike
The entire nation will now collectively mourn one of the great tragedies one can endure: the death of so many of our children.
But a detailed analysis of the facts will also be ongoing. There are many questions from all observers.
It just seems to me, when law enforcement finds two dead bodies on a sleepy university campus in the 7 A.M. hour: they immediately should slam the Red Alert button. Yesterday there were some lame remarks about getting out an email (two hours late) and that there wasnt time to get the word to both lock down the campus and stop the influx of tens of thousands of commuters.
They dont have radio and TV in Blacksburg, Virginia? If at 7 A.M. a tornado was announced heading for that campus, what would have happen? How about a snowstorm? We had high winds in Washington D.C. this week and the schools were closed three hours early. It was on every radio and TV station in seconds. With that huge force of law enforcement, a good police commander could have closed every road into that campus in no time.
They got radios, cars and flashing lights, dont they?
Did anyone notice that a bunch of those law enforcement offers were, ahem, chubby?
Law enforcement at Virginia Tech didnt save one life. They didnt waste one bullet doing it either. Somebody should be ashamed: law enforcement didnt fire a shot. The only shooter on that campus got tired after all the mayhem he made.
If my kids name was killed in the classroom after 9 A.M. I am one angry parent.
When is the last time law enforcement found two dead students, murdered students, on that campus during the 7 A.M. hour?
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Like 9/11, there were no logical dots to connect in the evidence chain and it would have taken leaps of faith and feelings to come up with any other scenario, at the time.
Police are trained NOT to do that and to go where the evidence leads them..
There is no point in this criticism that I can see, that is valid.
Just because you see dead bodies around doesn't mean the killer is done with you.
Cops do not have ESP. They do not prevent crimes. They try to catch the criminal after the fact. If they could prevent crimes, we would not have crime
“EVERY building in the area should have had a squad car or two protecting it and going through it, ASAP.”
In that there are more buildings (over 100) on the campus at Virginia Tech than there are armed police officers (entire police department - 74 full-time employees) in Blacksburg, Va, that might not have been practical.
Or even remotely physically possible.
As well, why stop there? Why assume that the killer would have gone a rampage on campus? Maybe he might go on a rampage somewhere else in the city of Blacksburg? If the police had sent the entire force to the campus, still unable to get as much as one police officer per building, what would have folks thought if the killer had gone on a rampage in the rest of Blacksburg?
“That is common sense.”
If you say so.
sitetest
You are so correct and what would we do if there was a major attack on campus? We are at war.I know this sounds screwy but this is the same time of Adolf Hitler’s birthday. Every year something terrible happens.
That’s the part that gets me - by their own words, the authorities say they had “reason to believe” the killer was long gone, perhaps in another state. Well that obviously was not inevitable. Even if you “hear” that the guy left Dodge, you still operate on the assumption an armed deranged killer is on the loose and starting from the immediate area, work outward, combing through nearby buildings, warning the citizenry, etc. The first double murder in a building full of students (not somebody’s home in the boonies hence NOT domestic) was horrific enough to warrant immedaite and complete action. There was a “nothing to see here” - holding a coffee and donut mentality to this, either by incompetence or a desire to downplay the initial incident for PR reasons. The truth will come out, and as much as I usually despise the press, this is one of those cases where they are useful in rooting out deceit and negligence.
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Great!
So if we only knew what city your son works for, we would know where we can live and never worry about crime. He can stop it before it starts.
Many mothers think their son is Superman. I am glad to hear that your son really is.
If he is really that good, he should go to Blacksburg and get the job as chief. He could then assure them that there would be no more crime at VT.
But then I have another question. If he is that good, why didn’t he move there last month and none of this would have happened?
Cops do not prevent crime. If the could, there would be no more crime.
All they can do is chase the bad guys.
OK. You guys win. Someone must be blamed right now!!!
As always, Geraldo has reported all we need to know to lynch someone. We let those Duke guys slip through our fingers....not again!! Lets ruin them publicly, then..the rope!!
That evening an F5 class tornado wiped out the downtown of nearby La Plata, MD.
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Must admit terrorism, fire and natural disasters are the three events most planned for,
but many including myself were overwhelmed this week by the rainfall levels in the tri-state area.
I’ve seen flood damage, nothing on this scale.
Uhh, the killing happended on campus, that’s where the double-murderer was last seen. So you start there and work outward, especially since it is a schoool with thousands of students, two of which were just killed. You are trying to downplay this scenario by using faulty logic, that being since you can’t possibly cover all the bases don’t cover any. They did not comb through the nearby vicinity to look for the loose armed killer, they confined everything to the one dorm and shrugged the rest off for two hours. They might have been playing the odds that their assumption would hold and the guy would be caught in some Delaware motel on Thursday. Well, they were wrong. Defend them if you wish, I will bet you anything there will be admissions of wrongdoing and imcompetence in a relatively short amount of time. Heck, listening to their press conferences now is enought to see that they KNOW they blew it.
Wow...thanks.
The only thing a dead body means is that someone died, not "Red Alert" panic.
Way to attack the mom with a cop son - feel better? In this case the crime already started, and the guy who committed double murder stayed in the immediate area for two hours, reloaded, and walked into a nearby building to kill dozens of students and teachers who were kept in the dark. Yep, nothing to see here folks. It’s cruel to question the cops and the administration...
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
there’s shooting on the campus—so go to your class cautiously... two people have been killed in a dorm today... we don’t have the murderer... let’s send out some emails two hours later to warn everybody... why let students even come onto campus after the first shootings? i know—it’s huge campus... however, they were able to shut the huge campus down after round two... to me, seems like a non-chalant approach... to you it doesn’t... we just disagree...
I just cannot understand it.
You should have known. My 20/20 hindsight says that you are derelict in your duties for not having known and protected all of those innocent people.
Most folks would probably think first of something like a drug overdose ~ not bullets.
That's real world stuff.
When that begins penetrating a 4 square mile campus out in the boondocks you'd better believe that something strange is going on.
Now, locking down a campus, or a town, really isn't all that practical, but notifying people that a mad dog killer with a gun is on the loose in the vicinity is.
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