Posted on 04/16/2007 7:14:16 AM PDT by LexHoskin
Gunman on Campus; Stay inside your building, away from windows; Shooting incident at West Ambler Johnston Hall
(Excerpt) Read more at vtnews.vt.edu ...
Internet abuzz over shooter’s mysterious markings
By Eric Benderoff
Chicago TribuneCHICAGO All at once, the world went searching for the meaning of “Ismail Ax.”
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003670889_shootax18.html?syndication=rss
Check out: http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/ibrahim.htm
Gunman sent package to NBC News
This didnt have to happen, says message mailed between shootings
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18169776/
VT Killer Ruled Mentally Ill by Court; Let Go After Hospital Visit
Harassed Two Female Students; Concerns He Was Suicidal
http://abcnews.go.com/US/print?id=3052278
NBC to air martyrdom video...
This kind of crap is a major insult to Dremel-tool-owners everywhere, especially in the WECSOG community...
What a dipsh!t - he looks like the bag I end up with after cleaning up the ‘dog deposits’ in my back yard, every week or two...
(I think I'll print out a few copies, just to throw in on top of the garbage bags full of dog sh!t that I send out to the land fill. We've got two big ol' dog boys, and we have to pick up after 'em. Maybe toss in a picture of Osama, and the Clintons, to round things out. I might even stencil the outside of the bag "NBC," with white Rustoleum. It might make an interesting find for future archaeologists...)
"Kill a student, get buried with dog sh!t."
I like it...
NOT a surprise that the majority of students ignored them.
Is it a fact that sirens went off all over the campus? I haven't heard or read of it. What time did they sound a warning, do you know?
For those of us who are ignorant of the safety measures VT employs, I would like to believe that every new student is instructed in what precautions to take when that siren is sounded...that the only instance in which they will hear them will be to indicate a dangerous, threatening situation.
Sorry. I didn't make this connection in my previous post to you. Of course, you're right. This is the typical reaction following false alarms, no matter how justified they are.
It's my understanding that Ishmael_Ax, the name he left written in blood-red ink on his arem before he killed himself, was his character name as a World of Warcraft player. Though that's not precisely a *videogame.*
Do you happen to recall a 1983 Debbie Harry/James Woods movie Videodrome from director David Cronenberg?
What an interesting observation. My first thought on seeing his poses was that I now have a new image for use as silhouette targets.
Technical details of the differences may have been lost to about 30 or so VT students and employees last Monday.
I agree, life at VT is not as severe as that in a war zone.
Yet.
This kind of crap is a major insult to Dremel-tool-owners everywhere, especially in the WECSOG community
For those who don't get the WECSOG reference:
Think, if you will about the one-half or even one percent who might be able to carry without incident--the ones with the maturity, demeanor, and who are willing to embrace the responsibility which goes with the right.
One half a percent translates to one person in evry 200 armed. Statistically speaking one person in the lecture bowl, depending on the class size. One in every second or third classroom. In the case of Tech, that would mean 130 additional people (out of 26000), aside from any arms campus security or police might be carrying, who have the ability to stop a lunatic.
While that is no guarantee there will not be incidents, especially if the forces of jihad pull out the stops, it is a level of ability to respond to threats which no police force nor security can provide on such a widespread basis.
In all actuality, permit holders would not be likely to be completely evenly dispersed throughout the campus. I would wager certain majors would attract the types of persons who would be more likely to seek their concealed carry permits, (that would make for an interesting study, in and of itself), and these folks would tend to be more concentrated in the vicinity of those departments. Still, it would have great potential to reduce the capacity for violence, just as permit holders do off campus.
As you said, it isn't for everyone. It is a tremendous responsibility, and one not to be taken lightly.
Because he was an English major?
An acid etch will bring the serial numbers 'back up' in most cases, anyway. Had he been more knowledgeable about metallurgy, he would have known this.
Thanks.....and would also like your comments on NBC airing Cho's tirade, videos, pictures. You can Freepmail me if desired. Take care.
I am. Fines for anyone caught not carrying an effective defensive weapon, jail time for repeat negligent offenders.
It's a duty and responsibility of citizenship to not only take care of yourself, but to be able to assist another. I don't think that those with religious or other deeply held philosophical scruples against doing should be forced to do something against their beliefs, but there needs to be a way to tell them from the stupid or lazy who've just forgotten or misplaced their weapon.
So a reasonably available exemption license should be available for those people once they demonstrate their sincerity, and something temporary for those medically or otherwise temporarily incapable of effectively defending themselves. The fee for such permits can be used to offset the public cost of protecting those who can't help protect themselves or others, with fee waivers for those experiencing simple temporary interruptions in their ability.
A college student who can't exhibit the restraint and skill level of a $9.00-per-hour security guard doesn't belong in college. And if he negligently or irresponsibly acts in ways that threaten others, there'll be an entire university community of those prepared and equipped to deal with it.
Yes he stalked her.
“and would also like your comments on NBC airing Cho’s tirade, videos, pictures”
I talked to a lot of media people today. That was a business decision that I understand. But the media is now complicit in the killing albeit against their will. He drug them into his crime. They are tools just like the guns that were used.
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