Posted on 04/16/2007 7:14:16 AM PDT by LexHoskin
Gunman on Campus; Stay inside your building, away from windows; Shooting incident at West Ambler Johnston Hall
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I can’t figure out the loud bang in the end (flash bang?) nor the screaming/yelling (cops breaching the building?)
Thanks. I did not realize that was the interview for your comments. Good job.
Armed with box cutters, give me a brief case ... 30 or 50 men against 5 terrorists, I like the odds.
The problem is people are taught to submit, instead of defend. A bad situation.
I hate to tell you this, but the British SASmen have been using the L105A1 SIG 226 for nearly a decade now. Only a few of the long-serving NCOs and *ruperts* still use the L9A1 GP.
BTW, the Walther PP, [not the smaller ppk] so much favoured by the 18th Intel Company spooks working in Northern Ireland, was designated the L47E1. When you're really an expert it's not that big a deal if you happen to have your preferred pistol/caliber.
I think it’s a hairy line. People acting alone - they’re basically just murderers. But it could be argued that simply being a Moslem makes them a terrorist. But again, it could be argued, no!
If they’re part of a conspiracy, especially a very large organization (or at least directed by same), then no question they’re terrorists.
Sorry, but that’s my view for now. It’s the kind of thing I think would have to be argued to iron out.
Nice attempt at spinning, but utterly stupid.
At the time that Giuliani called for national gun control, he did not know where the gun was purchased. And gun-grabber Giuliani NEVER mentioned what you just did about non-residents being prohibited from buying guns - he just said that the incident should be used to call for more national level gun control to include the legislation being pushed by Clinton at that moment.
no it won’t.
It will give more reason to HAVE a weapon handy. We have a different history than say...Canada, who has outlawed guns in various ways. They outlawed guns because of an incident and it turns out the guns they outlawed had NOTHING to do with the incident...so my canadian friend said. The dems will try to have 32 families on capitol hill pushing to outlaw a gun. But, lets face it, the perpetrator could have driving a supply van full of fertilizer and diesel to a VT football game and did the same thing. We have got to learn to identify the freaks, and take them down, through legal means or self-preservation. I wonder if he had GTA in his backpack.
This incident gives me more reasons to ensure my kid has a gun while in college (properly trained in safety), just for garbage like this. Do you want to go to court on a weapons handling charge, or go to his funeral.
Good one.
Here is another cached story:
June 28th, 2006
All across the country, police officers are put in complex situations every day where they must make vital judgment calls that deal with do’s and don’ts, rights and wrongs and ultimately, life and death. These things may seem so far away that it is easy to forget how hard the jobs of the nation’s defenders are until scandals or crimes hit close to home.
One such scare came home to us here in Blacksburg just last week, as police reportedly discovered a bomb in a local Blacksburg resident’s home. Janaka Nuwan Kumara Siriwardena was stopped for running a stop sign just last Friday when police discovered this man had been participating in other, more nefarious, illegal activities. He had allegedly been building bombs in his own apartment right here in Blacksburg — in Oak Bridge, where so many other students live. After police obtained a warrant and entered his home, they found evidence of even more illegal activities. Soon afterward, he was charged with burglary, manufacturing an explosive device, possession of cocaine and making a false police report.
Blacksburg is known as being a very safe, student-oriented environment. This town prides itself on being quiet — a calm place for students to study and people to live without the hassle of a major city. And so we live, undisturbed, silently protected by our police. Until an incident like this bomb scare takes place, we may not even realize that dangers exist here, as well as in the country and world at large. We take comfort in our isolation, false as it may be, and, as a result, we often go astray in our overconfidence of just how safe our own neighborhood is. More importantly, we find ourselves forgetting just how necessary and significant the police force is within our area.
Though 9/11 struck up appreciation for police departments and fire departments across the country, it didn’t take long before this patriotic gratitude wore off. Once again we have come face-to-face with the problem of taking our safety for granted. Had the police not arrested Janaka Nuwan Kumara Siriwardena, who knows where these explosive devices may have ended up? It’s sad to see that it takes events such as this one to make us realize how important our local policemen and policewomen are to our town.
We must realize that whether it’s a traffic ticket given to someone speeding on Prices Fork Road or a drug bust in a local apartment complex, our Blacksburg and Virginia Tech Police Departments have been doing their best to provide us with a safe and untroubled environment. By always being close by around campus and town, they ensure us that they are a dedicated force that will never fail to protect and serve the Blacksburg area. We must never forget, even in times of low crime and illegal activity that these police officers are working hard for our well-being every single day.
This is what doesn’t make sense - If he shot the girlfriend in the 7 am incident, then who was he looking for in the mid-morning attack? (The perp has been described as “looking for his girlfriend.”)
Welcome back! Fill us in on what you know.
As does genocide among disarmed populations.
Unless they gate the entrances and exits and place metal detectors everywhere, there is no real way to ban them. All schools ban them. But the person who decides to go down in the history books as a mass-murderer at a school brings in the guns anyway. The thing about rules is that they are only kept by law-abiding people. Murderers don’t care if guns are banned.
That's how I read it. Being somewhat proficient with a gun, I can tell you it's unlikely anyone just picks up a gun, runs over to his girlfriend and does this damage. I have instructed others, and they don't learn this fast.
It could be “I have nothing to lose now, I’m going to take out everybody” type of situation. He shoots the girlfriend and then goes out and loads up.
Which means he told someone who lived to tell about it. Initial reports are almost always wrong
The one thing with this senario that kinda suprises me is that after hours of media coverage and them talking to so many students that nothing has been learned about the shooter.
I would think that the media would have gleened something from other kids that knew the girl, etc. some of these kids, if this was an old boyfriend, would have met, known, etc the shooter. But there is zero coming aout about him from anyone.
Doesn’t disporve the gilted lover story ... but I do think it a bit odd.
Blaming legislators for this, even the lib gun grabbers, is no different than them blaming law abiding CCW citizens for having and promulgating firearm use.
Both sides use silly arguments.
Blame the murderer and keep steady with individual responsibility.
Ding! Ding! We have a winner!
those were the facts at issue in that case. unless you think the 2A right also extends to non-citizen palestinian immigrants with no resident status or background checks.
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