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"Oh, please, let me sound like a conservative. I need all those
dumb Christian conservatives to make a decent primary showing."

1 posted on 04/16/2007 4:25:28 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz
Asked about abortion, he said, "Our party has to get beyond issues like that."

Stunning. Rudy has tossed aside all pretenses of being good for the pro-life agenda. He would be the most divisive GOP nominee ever.

2 posted on 04/16/2007 4:28:39 AM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: Liz; SevenofNine

3 posted on 04/16/2007 4:37:53 AM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: Liz

Rooty can go ahead and “get beyond those issues” without my vote ever.

Pat Robertson has been known to not always be conservative on issues.

Republicans are once again going to show themselves as political hypocrites, and will lose because of it.

When the Democrats and the left decide and agree to leave any kind of social issues out of the political realm, that will be the day I would agree to leave social issues out.

Otherwise the game being played now will be a total victory for liberalism, given to the Democrats by virtue of the Republican Party.


4 posted on 04/16/2007 4:39:10 AM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: Liz

This is a surprise. Not what I expected of Rudy.


6 posted on 04/16/2007 4:53:36 AM PDT by Jane Austen
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To: Liz
Rooty is one funny guy.

Well sorry Rooty. As my 'departed' buddy Bobby from Tenn would say - That Dog Won't Hunt.
9 posted on 04/16/2007 5:05:14 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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To: Liz
Time for a reality check. The Republican Party must move beyond the abortion issue. I didn’t say abandon it, I said move beyond it.

Republicans must have other issues. Abortion is the only election issue for less than 2% of the electorate and “very important issue” for about 8% of the voters. You cannot win elections with your lead issue appealing to 8% of the voters.

In order to win elections, anti-abortion activists must learn the basic facts of wining elections in democracies. You will never get a candidate you agree with 100%. As Barry Goldwater once said, “I don’t agree with myself 100% of the time.”

There are other critical issues facing America. The war with radical Islam must be won or there is no need to worry about abortion. Unmarried pregnant women will be stoned to death under Sharia law.

Finally, don’t get mad at the 92% of Americans who don’t agree abortion is a very important issue. Use polls the way Ronald Reagan did, as a tools to understand where you must concentrate your educational efforts.

We will get the anti-abortion candidate we want when we have educated America to demand him.

10 posted on 04/16/2007 5:11:33 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in Vietnam meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: Liz

“Our party has to get beyond issues like that.”

*OUR* party? This ought to make for some good talk radio this week.


11 posted on 04/16/2007 5:15:29 AM PDT by wolfcreek (DON'T MESS WITH A NATION IN NEED OF MEDICATION !)
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To: Liz; areafiftyone
Charlie 'Lot' McNabb, of Chesapeake, Virginia, had warned his wife not to look at Rudolph Giuliani whilst he delivered his dubious oration.


16 posted on 04/16/2007 5:25:42 AM PDT by jla
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To: Liz

Rudy is an enemy to the US Contitution and to conservatism, and so are his supporters.


20 posted on 04/16/2007 5:33:38 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: Liz
Interestingly what annoys me most is the reference to "Rev. Pat U"

It's Regent University.

I know that's the headline, but as I noted on the other thread with the same story, Regent has worked very hard to build their repuptation from the days when it was "CBN University."

35 posted on 04/16/2007 6:16:15 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://wardsmythe.com)
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40 posted on 04/16/2007 6:25:35 AM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: Liz

This isn’t going to mainstream Rudy, it’s going to drive the final nail into Pat “I prayed for the hurricane to go away and it did” Robertson’s coffin.


51 posted on 04/16/2007 7:25:33 AM PDT by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: Liz
Asked about abortion, he said, "Our party has to get beyond issues like that."

I can't believe Rudy is that dumb, to say something like that, especially after the comments to CNN a while back.

He is getting some incredibly poor advice. I always thought of him as a very smart guy, but he just doesn't seem to have a clue about what the voters think outside the liberal cities.

57 posted on 04/16/2007 8:35:28 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Liz
Our party has to get beyond issues like that.

Yeah, those pesky unborn children, eh Rudy?

63 posted on 04/16/2007 9:07:15 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Ben Franklin, we tried but we couldn't keep it.)
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To: Liz
"Asked about abortion, he said, "Our party has to get beyond issues like that."

How convenient (it would be for Giuliani). This guy just cannot be the R nominee. No doubt the party platform would be changed and no telling when or if we would get it back. Odd that a man appointed by Reagan and shown together in pictures with him, would be someone who threatens so much that Reagan accomplished.

137 posted on 04/16/2007 9:41:41 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Giuliani is a democrat in Republican drag!)
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