News from the Long War, Thread 4

Various | 4/15/07 | Knitting a Conundrum and Others

[Knitting A Conundrum]

Thread 4



Since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, our nation has fought a global war against violent extremists who use terrorism as their weapon of choice, and who seek to destroy our free way of life. Our enemies seek weapons of mass destruction and, if they are successful, will likely attempt to use them in their conflict with free people everywhere. Currently, the struggle is centered in Iraq and Afghanistan, but we will need to be prepared and arranged to successfully defend our nation and its interests around the globe for years to come. DOD

Our enemies include all the Muslims who dream of knocking Western Civilization off its perch atop humanity’s dung heap. Islam is fractured into any number of sects, tribes and ethnic groups, but the dream of destroying us cuts across all the fault lines. Islamic terrorists are merely the tip of a very large spear.

J. Peter Mulhern, the American Thinker, September 18

The determination behind that fight is real, the hatred is real, and the excuses for doing this are very real in the minds of those who have decided to walk that path. We can respond in two ways: Try to ignore or negotiate with people who do not want to negotiate in good faith, because what they want is our destruction, or to stand up against the darkness of those who see all of us, our way of life, our culture and our aspirations as something worth eliminating.

Either: "And God willing, with the force of God behind it, we shall soon experience a world without the United States and Zionism," Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

Or: "With vigilance, determination, courage, we will defeat the enemies of freedom, and we will leave behind a more peaceful world for our children and our grandchildren." GW Bush.

Here's where I will post news and info about the Long War. Let me know if you're interested.

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[Knitting A Conundrum]

Gonna take a while. I expect the death toll to be not good.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

I was a bad girl and bought a new video game today...Rise of Nations...I sort of like those nation and city building simulation games...I tend to get obsessive about them while learning how they work...

[jedward]

Oh ohhh... :)

[1COUNTER-MORTER-68]

FOX kept reporting that with 20 minutes warning that
many people could have gotten in their cars and left town.
That don’t sound rite to me...:0/

[Knitting A Conundrum]

Most of the time, you don’t evacuate at night from a tornado...you shelter in place in the strongest place you can get to.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

It was my mother’s day present to myself...

[1COUNTER-MORTER-68]

Most of the time, you don’t evacuate at night from a tornado...you shelter in place in the strongest place you can get to.
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That’s the part that made no sense at all,,,the very first thing folks are told is to “Take Shelter !!”,,, NEVER
Heard “Go Git In The Car !!”...

The pics tell all,,,flat for the most part...

[jedward]

Never been much into video games myself.

[WorkerbeeCitizen]

Here one some will like. apparantly BB is the prefered leader.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1829094/posts

[Uncle Ike]

Good morning, everybody...

Typically ‘quiet’ Sunday morning, I see....

Been lurkin’ for a couple of hours, while defrosting the ol’ fridge.. (Something I always put off until it’s a real mess — I’ll never learn!)

Now off to Wally World — trying to get everything done early so I can have the rest of my days off for something productive - like sleeping and FReeping....

Back in a bit....

[Bahbah]

Morning, Uncle Ike.

There is someting in human DNA that does not allow us to defrost those things before they reach critical mass.

[Uncle Ike]

” There is someting in human DNA that does not allow us to defrost those things before they reach critical mass. “

That must be it — in my case, the ice built up in the freezer part until the main door wouldn’t shut all the way... Think that might qualify as ‘critical mass’....

Good morning Bahbah...

You getting any of that weather nastiness, or did it stay west and north of ya??

[Bahbah]

We have mercifully not been affected by this terrible weather...yet.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

14:35 Chief of Staff to MKs: Legislate for reserve soldier benefits (Haaretz)
14:08 Erekat: We want U.S. diplomatic plan implemented, hope to see Israel do so (Reuters)
14:05 Car bomb kills 27 in Baghdad commercial district (AP)
14:03 Underground gas leak near central Tirat Ha-Carmel shopping mall (Haaretz)
14:03 One killed as militants open fire at Gaza school event (AP)
13:59 Boy, 7, hospitalized after saved from drowning in Kinneret (Haaretz)
13:25 Livni, Olmert meet, say they will continue to work together (Haaretz)
13:19 Cabinet ratifies bill to fund ultra-Orthodox, alternative schools (Haaretz)
13:09 Death toll in Sinai peacekeepers` plane crash rises to 9 (AP)
12:49 Livni: Sunday meeting with Olmert will deal with political issues only (Israel Radio)
12:02 Report: Turkish Foreign Minister Gul withdraws presidential candidacy (AP)
11:43 Israeli seriously hurt in shooting attack near Ramallah (Israel Radio)
11:23 Justice Ministry: Torture report uses unrepresentative cases to distort reality (Haaretz)
11:13 French plane of Sinai peacekeeping force crashes in Egypt: police: some killed (AP)
09:37 A total of four rockets fired at Negev Sunday morning (Army Radio)
09:27 Voting begins in France` presidential election (AP)
08:32 Qassam rocket lands in Negev Desert, no injuries or damage (Israel Radio)
08:15 Two-week-old baby found abandoned near Negev mosque (Israel Radio)
07:11 Olmert and Livni to meet Sunday, discuss future of working together (Israel Radio)
06:42 Two-week-old abandoned baby discovered in Rahat mosque (Haaretz)
06:34 One Palestinian militant hurt in gunbattle with IDF in Jenin (Army Radio)
06:02 Foreign Ministry to present proof Livni backed diplomatic solution to war (Army Radio)
05:24 NII council rules disabled people can work and still get disability stipend (Haaretz)
05:15 Israel commemorates its reserves soldiers on national reservists day (Army Radio)
05:02 High school teachers threaten to renew strike after Lag Ba`omer holiday (Army Radio)
04:44 Proposed changes to U.S. immigration rules could admit terrorists as refugees (AP)
04:26 Milk production board: Israelis consume half as much dairy as West (TheMarker)
03:50 Gov`ts that control Nazi archives to discuss opening them to researchers May 14-15 (AP)
03:46 Peres: I`m not ruling out taking PM post but I won`t back plots to oust Olmert (Haaretz)
02:55 4 people hurt, one seriously, in Ramat Gan stabbing incident (Israel Radio)
02:20 Tehran: Iran-U.S. contacts in Egypt `not even worth mentioning` (AP)
01:58 Revised immigration law could mean admitting foreign terrorists as U.S. refugees (AP)
00:42 Al-Qaida number 2 derides Palestinians for not adopting more militaristic policy (AP)

[Uncle Ike]

” not been affected by this terrible weather... “

Prayers up that you stay out of the line of fire...

The storms and the devastation are terrible enough, but watching the bleeding-heart-crocodile-tears coverage compounds it a thousandfold — “How can these people recover and be ‘normal’ after all this devastation?” (at least without billions and billions of fed dollars, and whole batallions of ‘counsellors and psychiatrists’)...

Complete ignorance (or, worse, denial) of human spirit, and human history....

History Channel time came early this morning..... ;~(

[Uncle Ike]

Good morning, Knitting —

Still living on Eastern Time, I see.....

[Bahbah]

Again, what you said. Their favorite words: “victims, suffering, devastation” and their favorite was of showing “compassion”: send other people’s money.

Turning to other things:

We Want An Iraq Civil War - Duh!
Posted by AJStrata on May 5th, 2007

Linda Chavez made the obvious point many have missed in her article out today: The article is about whether or not Dems are anti-war or anti-troop. But the real question is will the Dems become anti-America? Here is the crux of all this - we want a small civil war in Iraq and we want one side to win and we need to make sure that side wins. Sound strange? Only to those in the surrendermedia and liberal far left echo chamnbers. Here is Chavez’s point:

The problem in Iraq is not the performance or the mission of American forces. The biggest problem is that Iraq has become a battleground in an Islamic jihad against not only America and the West, but non-Islamist Muslims. Al Qaeda targets the Shiite population, while Iran and its puppets in Iraq target the Sunnis. This is not civil war as commonly understood but a proxy war between two radical extremes in the Islamic world.

There is not fighting between the radical Islamo Fascists of the Shiia persuasion and the Sunni (al Qaeda) persuasion. The Islamo-Fascists are attacking the moderate Muslims trying to enrage them into sectarian violence. But so far it has not really worked. This is the war between Islamo Facists and ‘mainstream’ Muslims we have needed to take shape. The civil war is the extremists against the Arab/Muslim street.

For most of the Iraqi forces here the areas they patrol are familiar. They know the people, the area, and who does not belong. This is where they grew up.

“This is my home,” said one Iraqi policeman, who asked not to be identified due to concerns about his family’s safety. “We grew up here and know people here. (Terrorists) need to leave or they die here.”

This is a huge advantage for the U.S. military which has seen its share of conflict spring up in this area.

We cannot change Islam alone. We can ally with those Muslims who are willing to reject and throw off the Islamo Fascists. We see indications ALL OVER Iraq that the brutality of the Islamo Fascists is turning the tide in our direction.

More at the link: http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/3829

[Knitting A Conundrum]

This is true!

[Uncle Ike]

From the “Send ‘em to their rooms without supper...” file:

Minister Plans to Largely Abolish Prison Sentences
NIS NEWS ^ | 05/05/07 | staff

Posted on 05/06/2007 6:35:11 AM CDT by Leisler

THE HAGUE, 05/05/07 - Most criminals in the Netherlands should be able to serve their sentence at home in the future. Justice Minister Hirsch Ballin is to introduce house arrest as a new main punishment. Criminals can then also visit friends or a mosque for two hours a day.

Judges will have the option of imposing house arrest as the main penalty, with a maximum duration of four months. Because sentences are relatively short in the Netherlands, the majority of criminals will be eligible for this. The Lower House does still have to pass the proposed bill, sent by the minister Friday to various bodies including the Council for Jurisprudence (RvR) , the Public Prosecutor’s Office (OM) and the Netherlands Bar Association for their advice.

Hirsch Ballin expects house arrest to offer a solution for cases where a fine or community service is experienced as too light and “a stay in prison is not seen as necessary” or is seen as too severe a sentence, according to Trouw newspaper. Expectations are that judges will impose fewer jail sentences.

Under the bill, whether criminals remain in the vicinity of their homes will be monitored by an electronic ankle or wrist-band. Those convicted will however be able to leave their homes for two hours a day. This will only be allowed according to a schedule agreed beforehand. The two hours can be used for doing shopping, visiting family, sports activities or a visit to a mosque or other religious event.

If the criminal leaves home outside the times agreed, an alarm will go off in a police reporting room. The minister also wants to maintain unscheduled home visits as a means of checking. If the criminal fails to stick to the regime, the old situation will come into effect: house arrest will revert to prison.

Those under house arrest will receive welfare payments. Only if they run a company from their living-room or do other work that yields sufficient money will they receive no financial support from the minister. They can also do a home course.

“House arrest is experienced as a real punishment,” according to a spokesman for Hirsch Ballin. “At the same time, social networks remain in place.”

The measure is primarily intended to relieve the prisons. The Netherlands has been struggling for years with a shortage of cells, even though the number of people in prison per head of population is about six times lower than in the US.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1829126/posts?page=1
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Note this little detail: “Criminals can then also visit friends *or a mosque* for two hours a day. “

Interesting implication about the makeup of the Dutch criminal class, hmmmmmm???

[WorkerbeeCitizen]

Good morning all>

Need coffee - lots 'O' coffee.