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Illegal immigrants avoid INS, court IRS
AP via CoCoTimes ^ | 4/13/7 | Juliana Barbassa

Posted on 04/13/2007 7:41:47 AM PDT by SmithL

RICHMOND -- Carlos Diaz broke the law when he crossed the border and took a job as an office janitor. But he's not about to break another by failing to pay his income tax.

"I've been talking to other people who've done it, and I want to follow the law," said Diaz, an undocumented immigrant from Guatemala who squirmed in his seat at a neighborhood tax preparer's office.

Tuesday is Tax Day, when millions of illegal immigrants find themselves collaborating with one federal agency -- the Internal Revenue Service -- while trying to avoid another -- Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

They hope a track record of on-time payments will aid their citizenship applications, but critics who favor tougher enforcement of federal immigration rules say it's absurd for the government to work with people it should be tracking down and deporting. It legitimizes the presence of immigrants who are here illegally, critics say, and sends a mixed message about the country's interest in enforcing its own rules.

"The word schizophrenic comes to mind," said Marti Dinerstein, president of Immigration Matters, a research firm that advocates tighter immigration enforcement. "There is something fundamentally wrong about this."

The IRS created a nine-digit Individual Tax Identification Number in 1996 for foreigners who don't have Social Security numbers but need to file taxes in the U.S. But it is increasingly used by undocumented workers to file taxes, apply for credit, get bank accounts or even buy a home.

The IRS issued 1.5 million ITINs in 2006 -- a 30 percent increase from the previous year. To obtain one, a person needs to submit to the IRS an application and a document that serves as proof of identity, such as a visa or driver's license. All told, the tax liability of ITIN filers from 1996 to 2003 was $50 billion. The agency has no way to track how many were immigrants, but it's widely believed most people using ITINs are in the United States illegally.

One number hints at the number of illegal immigrants having income taxes deducted from their paychecks.

In 2004, the IRS got 7.9 million W-2s with names that didn't match a Social Security number. More than half were from California, Texas, Florida and Illinois, states with large immigrant populations, leading experts to believe they likely represent the wages of illegal immigrants. Even immigrants who use ITINs to file taxes are forced to make up a Social Security number when they get a job.

Critics such as Dinerstein say the process makes room for law violators, and in some cases might endanger the country by allowing them to operate more freely.

"That's why people who are living here illegally rushed to get ITINs like they're chocolate candy," said Dinerstein. "It's a national security issue."

IRS spokeswoman Nancy Mathis said the ID numbers are issued strictly to track a tax return's progress through the system, noting the tax code says nothing about whether foreigners filing taxes are here legally or not.

"It serves no other purpose," she said, "and was never intended to serve any other purposes."

Nor does the IRS share immigrants' personal information with ICE or any other agency, Mathis said.

To avoid any resemblance with Social Security cards, the IRS stopped issuing cards and instead sends a letter bearing the tax ID number. Still, these numbers do end up being put to other uses by a population eager for any form of official ID, and by companies interested in doing business with them.

Many banks now allow illegal immigrants to open an account with their ITIN, and Bank of America has a pilot program in Los Angeles that allows customers to use the numbers to sign up for a credit card. Others have created mortgage products for ITIN-bearing immigrants, including Citibank, which offers one in partnership with ACORN Housing Corp.

"They want to go forward, work, be a normal taxpayer," said Erica Gonzalez, a staff member in ACORN's Fresno office, where demand for the tax ID has shot up in recent years. "If they want to establish themselves here, this lets them do that."

Five states -- West Virginia, Kentucky, New Mexico, Utah and Illinois -- also allow ITINs to be used as identification for a driver's license.

This is what rankles the system's critics.

"The IRS never anticipated this phenomenon," said Dinerstein. "They thought it was going to be some boring tax compliance number."

To Ben Johnson, director of the Immigration Policy Center at the nonpartisan American Immigration Law Foundation, the widespread use of tax ID numbers is another sign that the immigration system is broken.

"The U.S. economy hangs a huge 'help wanted' sign at the border, and they come to work, not to hide," he said. "A lot of people struggle with the idea they're here without permission and want to find a way to operate legitimately, like a normal hardworking person."

Judging by the crowded waiting room at Esteban Ramirez's modest tax preparation office in Richmond, where a television blared Spanish-language soap operas, it's clear undocumented immigrants are growing increasingly comfortable around a Form 1040.

Some are interested in getting refunds, like the approximately 80 percent of tax filers who get them each year. Although ITIN users don't qualify for the Earned Income Tax Credit, which could give a break to an American earning in the same bracket, they can get other tax credits, and can use ITINs to claim dependents in Mexico.

At the end of his session with Ramirez, 18-year-old Diaz found he would have to pay, as he had expected.

The $800 payment is steep, he said. But if it helps him to build a lawful life in the United States -- a life he hopes will include his own janitorial business, and in the future, college -- it's worth it.

"It's better to stay on the right side of the law," he said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: illegalaliens; immigrantlist; ins; irs; taxes
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"It's better to stay on the right side of the law," he said.

Ahem!

1 posted on 04/13/2007 7:41:50 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL
Gee - just use this number to track them down and deport them...
2 posted on 04/13/2007 7:45:34 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: SmithL

Poncho says, “I break ICE laws because they let me go. I dont’ break IRS laws because they put you in jail”.

Someone buy ICE a clue.


3 posted on 04/13/2007 7:48:06 AM PDT by Toggameid
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To: SmithL

Ugh. Who writes the headlines for AP?

INS doesn’t exist anymore.


4 posted on 04/13/2007 7:48:10 AM PDT by bourbon (Islam hates the West, and the West hates itself. How will we survive?)
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To: 2banana
"Gee - just use this number to track them down and deport them..."

Not that simple. My wife has an ITIN and all they asked for was her foreign Id. The address of which would be of little use in tracking down anyone.
5 posted on 04/13/2007 7:51:14 AM PDT by ndt
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To: bourbon
"INS doesn’t exist anymore."

How about Prince style? "the agency formerly known as the INS"
6 posted on 04/13/2007 7:52:07 AM PDT by ndt
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To: SmithL

“ligitimizes”/

does that mean that if a burgular leaves a dollar on the table he is legitimite?


7 posted on 04/13/2007 7:54:54 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (27 B stroke 6 required)
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To: SmithL
Nor does the IRS share immigrants' personal information with ICE or any other agency, Mathis said.

Why? Because if they did, all that lovely money would stop coming in.

A better question is, "does the Earned Income Tax Credit and other programs, end up putting money back in the pockets of illegals"?

8 posted on 04/13/2007 8:02:09 AM PDT by ikka
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To: SmithL

Wait a second. I have a ITIN because I have a little business. Yippee! I don’t need to file under my SS anymore. I’ll use the ITIN because it doesn’t represent a person.

Oh crap! I’m not an illegal! I’ll have to not speak English when I go to BofA to open a credit card account without a SS number. Anybody got a stick on mustache I could borrow?


9 posted on 04/13/2007 8:09:57 AM PDT by ca centered
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To: SmithL

Then again, if we decided to legalize the illegal aliens that have actually been paying taxes through the IRS we would not be legalizing a whole lot of them.


10 posted on 04/13/2007 8:14:56 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Toggameid

I remember a comic where the Joker actually got rich legally but spent it all by the time it came to pay taxes on it. So he planned a heist just to pay those taxes. He said it was ok to break the law but only a fool would mess with the IRS.


11 posted on 04/13/2007 8:16:19 AM PDT by Raymann
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To: ikka
A better question is, "does the Earned Income Tax Credit and other programs, end up putting money back in the pockets of illegals"?

The answer is yes, and that is the real reason he's there some of these people claim five and six dependents and they get the old check, next years it's a different name and a larger number of kids. Best scam going!

12 posted on 04/13/2007 8:22:10 AM PDT by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: SmithL
"The IRS never anticipated this phenomenon,"

I guess nobody ever anticipated having a President that would refuse to enforce immigration law.

13 posted on 04/13/2007 8:25:51 AM PDT by Colorado Doug
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To: org.whodat

EITC fraud is estimated to be about 1/3 of the total program.


14 posted on 04/13/2007 8:41:02 AM PDT by cosine
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To: ndt
Some are interested in getting refunds, like the approximately 80 percent of tax filers who get them each year. Although ITIN users don't qualify for the Earned Income Tax Credit, which could give a break to an American earning in the same bracket, they can get other tax credits, and can use ITINs to claim dependents in Mexico.

Not that simple. My wife has an ITIN and all they asked for was her foreign Id. The address of which would be of little use in tracking down anyone.

The check has got to be mailed somewhere...

15 posted on 04/13/2007 8:51:56 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: SmithL

“The $800 payment is steep,”

I thought that illegal aliens only were paid very low wages? barely enought to live on? That they needed lots of freebies?

He has to PAY $800? His wages must have been good


16 posted on 04/13/2007 11:25:29 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: 2banana
The check has got to be mailed somewhere...

You may send it to my PO Box. LoL,

Actually all the tax ripoff companies now offer we pay you now the check come to them. They just get their ten percent or 20 percent drag.

18 posted on 04/13/2007 1:36:05 PM PDT by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: panthermom
"they owe him an EARNED INCOME TAX CREDIT!!!! ...I wish these reporters would get in the real world."

ITIN users don't qualify for the Earned Income Tax Credit. Panthermom meet real world and you might want to read the article before resorting to all caps.
19 posted on 04/13/2007 1:37:44 PM PDT by ndt
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To: ndt

Like it or not, whether they are using ITIN’s, someone elses SS#, a made up SS#, whatever, they are scamming the system. They are ILLEGAL ALIENS. They BROKE THE LAW! Send them HOME!!!


20 posted on 04/13/2007 2:33:00 PM PDT by panthermom (DUNCAN HUNTER 2008)
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