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Why Newt was 95% in debate with Kerry
4/11/07 | Vanity

Posted on 04/11/2007 8:59:31 PM PDT by ckilmer

Ok lets get the 5% wrong part out of the way. Both Newt and Kerry agreed that the current warming goes back 400 years. It only goes back about 200. Current reseach shows that there was a cooling period or mini ice age from the early 1400's to the early 1800's. Up until about 1810 the Thames River in England froze over sufficiently for London to have fairs on the river annually. After about 1810 those fairs ended. The ice was not solid enough to support the people.

Both Kerry and Newt agreed that carbon dioxide has gone up since the first industrial revolution which began in the 1830's. Both seemed to suggest that man burning coal oil & wood was the principle reason for the upsurge. Scientists are saying these days that since Mars is currently warming its more likely that the reason the earth is warming has more to do with the suns radience.

More carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is an effect rather than a cause.

Still the earth is warming on average and carbon dioxide may be one the reasons for the warming.

So why did Newt agree with Kerry and say not only that there is a problem but that the problem is so urgent that it calls for immediate and dramatic action right now.

Environmental concerns over carbon dioxide and national security concerns over oil dependence on regimes that wish US ill and monetary concerns over the current accounts deficits are three sides of the same problem.

The faster the USA can get out from under dependence on foreign oil the better all around.

The center of the arguement was how to drop carbon dioxide use the fastest and most cost effectively. Kerry was argueing for what he referred to as cap in trade or the Europeans call carbon credits. Cap in trade or carbon credits are disincentives in the form of taxes for carbon dioxide emmissions. Newt was arguing for tax breaks and more federal spending on research. Tax breaks and federal dollars for research are incentives for creating new technologies.

I agree with Newt's line of reasoning. His arguement that any regime that doesn't include the indians and the chinese won't be effective in cutting world wide carbon dioxide emissions. He said the way for India and China to cut their carbon dioxide emissions and -- also their dependence on mid east oil was to create the technologies that precluded the need for such things as oil.

He concluded his remarks by mentioning that 100 years ago no on could have imagined the LA that we know today. There simply is no water in the area. There is an amazing amount of technological adaptability at our disposal.

Newt didn't say so but I think one thing that will happen in the next decade will be that the cost of water desalination will collapse to 1/10 current costs thereby making it possible to turn the deserts of the world green and doubling the size of the habitable planet and reversing the carbon dioxide buildup in the atmosphere.


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KEYWORDS: climatechange; desalination; energy; environment; gingrich; globalwarming; newt
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1 posted on 04/11/2007 8:59:33 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer
A hunk of bird poop might land on only 5% of my sandwich.

That doesn't mean I'm going to eat around it.

2 posted on 04/11/2007 9:24:11 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: ckilmer
Nuclear Power.
3 posted on 04/11/2007 9:25:12 PM PDT by smoothsailing ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction"--President Ronald Reagan)
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To: ckilmer

Newt has backed himself into a corner. He is an intelligent person but his rubbing shoulders with Hillary and now agreeing to the global warming fiasco has definitely busted any balloon he had for running for president.


4 posted on 04/11/2007 9:34:46 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: smoothsailing
"Nuclear Power"

By the way, doesn't "green" Europe rely much more heavily on nuclear power than the USA? Correct me if I'm wrong.
5 posted on 04/11/2007 9:38:07 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Steve_Seattle
Yes they do. The French have used nuclear power reliably for years without any incidents. The French.
6 posted on 04/11/2007 9:41:06 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Ben Franklin, we tried but we couldn't keep it.)
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To: Pukin Dog

The quicker the USA can get off foreign oil dependence the better.


7 posted on 04/11/2007 9:42:17 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: taxesareforever

you don’t know what newt agreed or disagreed to.


8 posted on 04/11/2007 9:43:06 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

Doesn’t matter. If he doesn’t want to state his position he is toast.


9 posted on 04/11/2007 9:44:39 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: Pukin Dog

now yer talking turkey twat. either that or yer eating around it. probably what gives you such a sourpus.


10 posted on 04/11/2007 9:46:20 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: taxesareforever

newt stated his position.


11 posted on 04/11/2007 9:47:10 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

Great physicists.


12 posted on 04/11/2007 9:50:46 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: taxesareforever
Yep, I do agree that he has lately left somethings to be desired.

I don’t care for politicians who pal around with what I consider to be traitors to this country.

13 posted on 04/11/2007 9:50:47 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, DUNCAN 08, ELECTION 2008, MOST IMPORTANT OF MY LIFE TIME)
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To: Steve_Seattle
Yep. Just goes to show you how dumb we are.
14 posted on 04/11/2007 9:51:00 PM PDT by smoothsailing ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction"--President Ronald Reagan)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The French have used nuclear power reliably for years without any incidents. The French.

With the ongoing Arabization of France they won't for long.

15 posted on 04/11/2007 9:54:04 PM PDT by this_ol_patriot (I saw manbearpig and all I got was this lousy tagline.)
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To: onedoug

can’t say that I understand your comment.


16 posted on 04/11/2007 9:59:40 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: OKIEDOC

oh well you want duncan hunter anyway. so the hey.


17 posted on 04/11/2007 10:00:44 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: Steve_Seattle
"By the way, doesn't "green" Europe rely much more heavily on nuclear power than the USA?"

Yes. France specifically produces 78% of it's power from 58 nuclear power plants. Jokes aside, they are a mile ahead of us in this area.
18 posted on 04/11/2007 10:05:14 PM PDT by ndt
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To: ckilmer

He stated zilch. All he did was agree with Kerry. He says there is global warming and that means he will support controls. Bye bye Newt.


19 posted on 04/11/2007 10:23:31 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: OKIEDOC

You are right. DUNCAN 08!!


20 posted on 04/11/2007 10:25:48 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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