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Troops Tours In Iraq Will Be 15 Months
breitbart.com ^ | 04/11/07 | Pauline Jelinek

Posted on 04/11/2007 12:15:00 PM PDT by Froufrou

The Pentagon will lengthen tours of duty for all active-duty Army units in Iraq to 15 months from the current 12 months as the military struggles to supply enough troops for the conflict, two defense officials said Wednesday.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates planned to announce the decision Wednesday afternoon, said the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak on the record.

It is the latest move by the Pentagon to cope with the strains of fighting two wars simultaneously and maintaining a higher troop level in Iraq as part of President Bush's revised strategy for stabilizing Baghdad.

Officials on Monday said some 13,000 National Guard troops were receiving orders alerting them to prepare for possible deployment to Iraq—meaning a second tour for several thousand of them. Officials said a final decision to deploy the four infantry combat brigades later this year will be based on conditions on the ground and named specific Guard units based in Arkansas, Indiana, Oklahoma and Ohio.

The Pentagon said the Guard units would serve as replacement forces in the regular troop rotation for the war, and would not be connected to the controversial military buildup that was ordered by President Bush and which officials say is starting to show some success in curbing violence in Baghdad.

Word has also emerged that Defense Department officials were considering a plan to extend by up to four months the tours of duty for as many as 15,000 U.S. troops already in Iraq as a way to maintain the buildup past the summer.

There are currently 145,000 U.S. troops in Iraq, and when the buildup is completed by June, there would be more than 160,000, officials are calculating.

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To: Froufrou

This will be hard on active duty families back here waiting for their loved ones safe return.

We sure need to expand the active duty Army ASAP.


61 posted on 04/11/2007 1:08:31 PM PDT by LM_Guy
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To: Radix

That’s what I said, post #46.


62 posted on 04/11/2007 1:08:52 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: brushcop

Prayers for all those who have given the ultimate sacrifice and hopefully the three months will give the ending a chance to be successful so their sacrifice is not in vein.


63 posted on 04/11/2007 1:10:35 PM PDT by tobyhill (only wimps believe in retreat in defeat)
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To: stompk; LM_Guy; Vn_survivor_67-68

Maybe the draft should come back. I was actually part of Desert Storm [civilian] but I don’t remember any early outs being discussed.


64 posted on 04/11/2007 1:10:56 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: All

Boy, I have to say that after reading some of the cavalier statements about having troops’ tours extended by 3 months being “no big deal”, I’m a little taken aback.

We want to win this war and support the President’s iniatives. We want our troops to get the support and funding that they need, despite the anti American leftists in Congress as well. But I don’t think our troops would appreciate the cavalier attitudes. They are sacrificing their lives and limbs, sometimes their ability to think. They are sacrificing their time with their children and families. Perhaps strategy wise it is the precisely correct thing to do. However, remember that these volunteers are people too...spending 25% more time in a tough counterinsurgency war will see people who were coming back whole and alive - instead comeback maimed and dead. No small deal in my opinion.


65 posted on 04/11/2007 1:10:59 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Message to radical jihadis...come to my hood, it's understood ------ it's open season" Stuck Mojo)
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To: DevSix

Their sacrifices will not be forgotten unless our leaders don’t do something they think might work and if they think 3 months is that chance then I expect it will be embraced. Right now there are units being deployed early or extending with no continuity and maybe this will give it some.


66 posted on 04/11/2007 1:14:58 PM PDT by tobyhill (only wimps believe in retreat in defeat)
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To: DevSix

I don’t think you have any idea how big of a deal this is. It chips away at morale. Sure, most will suck it up, but this has devastating effects on families who miss two Christmases or two birthdays or two of anything in a row. More and more in the military it is being heard, “why are just a few of us bearing the increased load.”


67 posted on 04/11/2007 1:15:43 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Froufrou

“Maybe the draft should come back. “

I lived for awhile in a country that had compulsory military service. one good thing about it, you never heard of people picketing soldiers or spitting on them. it’s a little hard to be rude to soldiers, when you’ve been in their boots.


68 posted on 04/11/2007 1:17:02 PM PDT by stompk
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To: rbmillerjr

It’s keyboard warrior Wednesday.


69 posted on 04/11/2007 1:17:16 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Radix
The Troops deployments should be shortened, not lengthened. This is a bad new policy. They could get more voluntary months if the Troops got more breaks from serving over in that sheitehole. Who the heck is designing this strategy?

Your advice is absurd. Building relationships, understanding your AO and systematically implementing your greater operations orders takes time. It takes time on the ground. Plain and simple.

People need to understand we are in a war. A real war.

70 posted on 04/11/2007 1:22:25 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: stompk

Well, I guess that wasn’t Switzerland! Or France!

I thanked a young friend’s husband recently for his service. He looked me right in the eye and nodded. But then he said, ‘not every soldier is deserving of your gratitude.’

That’s hard for me to accept even though I know why he said it. That ‘code of honor’ wasn’t intended for Marines only.


71 posted on 04/11/2007 1:26:14 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: leadpenny
I know exactly how big of a deal this is (or isn't). I can assure you.

And families back home need to stand firm and support their warriors why they are away. Not whine and cry and help to erode their chances for victory! (which we are achieving!). Our warriors are not victims. They should not be looked at as such....and damn well not turned into them....by others in the name of supporting them.

72 posted on 04/11/2007 1:26:40 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: blaquebyrd

Yep, one of my best friends, a formerly promotable Major, was with a USAF ICBM Wing at Minot AFB. In 1992, when his silo was closed down and sealed, he was given a choice, USAF Human Resources (a dead end job) or voluntary separation after twelve years of service. He took the voluntary separation and became a school teacher. He is still ticked off that USAF killed his career because of the so-called “Peace Dividend.”


73 posted on 04/11/2007 1:27:08 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: Froufrou

BRACs 88 and 91 started the process.


74 posted on 04/11/2007 1:29:34 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: rbmillerjr

Excellant post! I’m sure my nephew’s a little disappointed that he will not be coming home in Sept., but he’ll do what he has to do!


75 posted on 04/11/2007 1:30:22 PM PDT by 007girl
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To: rbmillerjr

No one was calling early deployments a big deal nor the units that have already extended a big deal but now that there is policy that makes extensions by 3 months throughout all active deployments it’s a big deal. I’m sure all the professionals will drive on despite this extension but I think to make 3 extra months the subject over mission has the potential to cause problems with morale. The 3 months extensions is designed to give continuity to all actively deployed troops and prevent the Army from breaking.


76 posted on 04/11/2007 1:31:23 PM PDT by tobyhill (only wimps believe in retreat in defeat)
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To: rbmillerjr

The guard should only have been being used while they raised new divisions to replace them. If they had wanted to offer them bonuses to go active duty, that would have been ok to. I just sometimes get the feeling that the Army get’s too focused on new and better ways to kill the enemy and not enough on finding and training enough trigger fingers for those wonder weapons.


78 posted on 04/11/2007 1:32:45 PM PDT by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: tobyhill

Yeah man, as you say, “no big deal”.


79 posted on 04/11/2007 1:34:10 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Message to radical jihadis...come to my hood, it's understood ------ it's open season" Stuck Mojo)
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To: DevSix
"Your advice is absurd."

Perhaps it is. I only know for sure that the long deployments were quite trying on this particular family. Extending them further is not at all comforting.

"Building relationships, understanding your AO and systematically implementing your greater operations orders takes time. It takes time on the ground. Plain and simple."

There is another side to that coin though. Spreading the deployment times around might be better for morale all around. Especially in the light of our seriously undermanned military. (I think that it is understaffed.) I think that is worth consideration.

As for the war situation...sometimes I wonder if you and I are the only ones who actually realize that.

Nice to see you around again.

80 posted on 04/11/2007 1:36:24 PM PDT by Radix (You might find my other Tag Lines for sale on E-Bay.)
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