[rottndog]

(Civil and rational discussions on this topic haven't been possible on FR for years).

It's hard to have rational discussions with people who are pathologically predisposed to defend someone, regardless of how wrong they are on an issue.

[ohioWfan]

I have never defended the guest worker program, but I do defend against hyperbole and false attacks that are not based in facts, but rather in emotional poppycock.

I, in fact, posted a thread a while back with the sole purpose of expressing thoughtful opinions about the illegal issue, for and against the President's policy (I, being against), without rancor and argumentation. (And the kind of mindless bashing that's prominent on this thread).

It actually worked for a few thousand posts.

If that makes me 'pathological' in your book, then so be it. But it looks a lot more like you're the one who doesn't care to be civil......