"England expects that every man will do his duty"
Posted on 04/08/2007 10:11:40 AM PDT by milwguy
Commenter FormerHostage wrote a response to my question. Given his first hand experience of the 444 days Americans were held hostage by Iranian radicals from November 4th, 1979, to January 20th, 1981, I think everyone should give this a read:
As my screenname indicates, I can speak with Complete Moral Authority (tm) on this issue.
On the day of the takeover, the Marines were outnumbered at least 1000 to 1. We held the consulate and the communications vault for over 12 hours, helping to destroy equipment and classified material. We were under STRICT orders not to fire our weapons or pop gas grenades (too late for that last one..hee, hee, hee). We were eventually told that we were on or own and to make a break for it. The monkeys even put one of the diplomats in front of the comm vault peep eye with a pistol to their head and threatened to kill them unless the door was opened. It wasn't and they didn't. Once all the material was destroyed the doors were opened and they all got the crap beat out of them.
When we were first taken, the Iranians took us into a room individually and asked us to sign a statement denouncing the US policy in Iran, Israel, the Shah, etc. The Marines signed with names such as Michael Mouse, Chesty Puller, Dan Daly (google the last two...Marine Corps legends), Harry Butz, etc.
During the ordeal they would try to tape us for propaganda purposes. Personally, I would keep looking down to the ground or hide behind others so that my face wouldn't show (in fact, after a couple of months of not seeing me in any of the videos my records I was classified as MIA). Another Marine and I shared the same cell and when they came in with cameras we'd strip down. I heard a rumor that one of the other Marines smeared ketchup on his face and started howling.
They day before they released us, we were taken to a room with a camera and Mary the Terrorist who was going to interview us. We were threatened that if we didn't say the right things we wouldn't be released. Some Marines gave only name rank and SSN, others sang (Marine Corps Hymn or God Bless America), others just said nothing.
On the day they let us go, I was being herded towards the airplane by a couple of those monkeys. I pulled my arm out of their grasp and let them know that "We're number one"...but used the wrong finger.
For our troubles we were isolated, thumped, went through two mock executions, starved, threatened, and had to put up with useful idiots from Amnesty International showing up just to let the world know how humane we were being treated.
We resisted at each opportunity, except for Army Sgt Joe Subic who collaborated from day 1 and was later snubbed by the rest of us (and was the only one not to receive a citation). We refused to cooperate, stole keys, plugged toilets, pissed in their rations, blew circuit breakers, laughed in their face when they threatened us and cursed them when they beat us. Steve Kirtley even told one of them to pull his finger! The monkey did and Steve was beaten for the inevitable result.
We did this because we were first and foremost, MARINES! Our honor and loyalty to the United States gave us the courage. We would rather die (and that was a definite possibility) than to shame ourselves, our Corps, or our Country. We had to live up to our history and got to measure ourselves and our actions against those of greater men.
Yes, we broke now and then. But would immediately pick ourselves back up and go back to fighting. Which, by the way, confused the hell out of the monkeys!
Pity the poor Brits. All they had was the history of the E.U. and the U.N. as examples.
Semper Fi
“Come on, you sons of bitches, do you want to live forever?” bump
The toughest hostage of all was a diplomat, Mike Metrinko. He was held in solitary for over nine months. He was the least cooperative of all.
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I was a senior in HS - I joined the 82nd ABD while they were held.
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Gee, wonder why this didn’t appear on the front page of the NYT recently? Oh, that’s right. Wouldn’t want to embarass the nice Muzzies (or that puke Carter) would we? San-Fran-Nan would be upset.
Thankfully there were a few of our ‘boomer’ generation with some b**s.
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Wanted to make sure you saw this.
There is no shame in being captured. The shame comes in how you conduct yourself. These 15 Brits have shamed themselves and their country.
Semper Fidelis indeed.
Who was the black marine that accepted the propaganda release for women and nonwhite male Americans?
“Steve Kirtley even told one of them to pull his finger”
Now, there’s a Man with a set!!
bttt
"England expects that every man will do his duty"
He was the guy who eagerly pointed out the fluent Farsi speaker among the Americans, an intel guy who promptly got the crap beat out of him.
Can you believe the guy went on to become POLICE CHIEF...? In Florida, or something...
http://gainesville.com/apps/pbcs.dl...03020358/0/news
His winning ways continue.
Seem Mr. Subic has been charged with two counts of insurance fraud.
Somewhere around March 3, 2007.
Thanks for that info, I wonder what the Army did with him? Can’t believe they didn’t take some kind of action against him.
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