[zook]

Did any of you read about how these soldiers were blindfolded in front of a firing squad? How their captors simulated the sounds of a throat being cut?

I’m not excusing them. But I think that part of the dynamic here had to do with the fact that there was a mother among them, and none could bear the idea that the Iranians would kill her.

Maybe this is an indictment of having women, or at least moms, in these situations.

[ClaireSolt]

Why be heroic? The antiwar movement has denied heros their due in this age of relativism when anything goes.

[SkyPilot]

Maybe this is an indictment of having women, or at least moms, in these situations.

Possibly.

But if that is the case, they should state it NOW.

If they will not even come clean about that being the prime motivator in their quick capitulation to become Lord Haw Haws for Iranian television, then they deserve even more contempt. It would be more PC grist for the mill.

Someone should have told Faye Turney that denouncing her government in "Dear Mum and Dad" letters wasn't the smartest thing to do.

The Iranians are now more emboldened than ever - and the British hostages behavior contributed to this.

As for the officers who were at that press conference, they should have released a statement saying: "Valor is a casualty of war."

[batco-barry]

“Maybe this is an indictment of having women, or at least moms, in these situations.”

In all the posts i’ve read on this, this is the statement that stands out among others...............

[Beckwith]

... the fact that there was a mother among them

Just one more argument against women in combat rolls.

[WorkingClassFilth]

I think that part of the dynamic here had to do with the fact that there was a mother among them, and none could bear the idea that the Iranians would kill her. Maybe this is an indictment of having women, or at least moms, in these situations.

It's more than an indictment; it's exactly what any sane person has always seen in the politically correct insanity of putting women in combat situations. Give the nutcases the ability to exercise PC options and worse will come to pass as well.

Of course, this obvious problem has nothing to do with the myriad of problems connected to the sexual dynamic and its effects on morale in normal operating conditions.

[Son House]

I’ll excuse them, the rules of engagement are so messed up,
what can we expect?
Iran is killing our Troops in Iraq,
and we can’t even shoot at them before they approach
our side in Iraqi waters.
I am a bigger chicken than all these British Troops,
and I would need more ammo and a big weapon that kills anything
that moves if I were in a war zone.

[Maria S]

“Maybe this is an indictment of having women, or at least moms, in these situations.”

No kidding! Not to mention that the woman in the group was pregnant with another child! I do have a certain amount of respect (not much, but a little) for the men who were with her.

[Last Dakotan]

Maybe this is an indictment of having women, or at least moms, in these situations.

I agree. Sadly we have not heard much criticism of this relevantly new phenomenon in war fighting. It obvious leads to the feminization of the remainder of the group.

[UltraKonservativen]

It’s ok to be scared while blindfolded but how do you explain all the smiles and sweet disposion while on television...sure did not look like motivated by fear.
They looked like stupid weak little teenagers kissing butt after being caught doing something wrong.
The final display of cooperation with the the little monkey was disgusting.
At least the girl looked a bit scared but as far as the men...in the words of Ann Coulters...Faggots! not that there is anything wrong with that :)

[pitinkie]

Throat cutting was not simulated. One of the men vomited when they were facing the wall..others thought maybe a throat was cut when they heard vomit hit the ground.

[RobbyS]

Good point. My understanding is that such considerations made the Israelis change their policies about service women. Nature will out!