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To: Boston Blackie
People only employ sensible risk management in their lives when they have something to protect. If they have money, property, etc. When they have little or nothing which is the case with most illegals why not drink and drive? As we can see if you get drunk and kill someone there is really no penalty so why not get wasted and drive?

I've thought about this illegal thing for some time. I really wonder if since we are an aging society and have something like 77 trillion in unfunded monies going to the retirment of the bay boomers that peopel like George Bush wnt to let millions of illegals in. Then make them legal and tax their income. If I'm right the problem is that since most of the people are pretty worthless as far as making money they have to let a large number in to make the math work.

Besides this I think that the WOT is bogus since we have not shut down our borders.

16 posted on 04/06/2007 6:44:21 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Hey mister, can you spare a carbon credit?)
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A new study has been released that shows immigrants pay under $10,000 in taxes. Yet, they receive more than $32,000 in social services benefits.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0704/05/ldt.01.html

REP. BRIAN BILBRAY, (R) CA: Well, this study really shows why we spend billions and billions. We try to reduce the number of people who are undereducated, under-trained. Because they don’t have the ability to produce the resources to be able to pay for the overhead that you have.

And then when you have people that stand up and try to justify illegal immigration that we need more poor, uneducated people in the country, the Heritage Foundation sort of re-enforces that this is an issue that goes beyond legal and illegal immigration. It’s a concept that we should try to get those paying a major portion of the expense of what they produce.

We’re really talking for every illegal immigrant family in this country, we’re giving them the equivalent of a brand-new mustang convertible every year. That’s something that I think we’ve got to recognize is the real expense of illegal immigration.

DOBBS: Robert Rector, let’s put up this chart of showing the cost of low-scale workers. And this is an interesting way to look at it. They pay under $10,000 in taxes. Yet, they receive more than $32,000 in benefits.

The tax burden, obviously, is the difference between the two. And that is an impressive number. But it rises to over $1 million over the lifetime of such workers.

There’s another way to look at this. It seems to me, Robert Rector. And that is if low-skill workers are being brought in by corporate America, what they’re really doing is pushing the burden of providing for those low-skill workers, particularly, illegal immigrant, off on the American taxpayer, so that the company, the employer of those illegal aliens won’t be paying that 32 — or $22,000, and the difference, if we can assume that, each year.

RECTOR: That’s exactly right. When the Chamber of Commerce will come to me and lobby and say, oh, we have to have these workers. We’d have to pay a dollar an hour more if we didn’t have them.

I say, look, each one of these workers that you bring in like this, if they come in with family, it’s costing the taxpayers $22,000. Do you as an employ want to pay that cost? They say, oh no, no. We don’t want to pay that.

They just want to shift those costs onto the taxpayer so they can make a tiny bit more profit. It’s a terrible, terrible idea. And we have a very generous system for people born in the United States, we support them through welfare. We subsidize their Social Security. We give basically free education for their kids.

But what we really have now is a kind of trans-national welfare outreach where we’re pulling more welfare recipients into the country.


28 posted on 04/06/2007 9:04:59 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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