Scripture teaches we have a spirit that will live on for eternity. It does not teach that it has always existed.
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Well these scriptures testify that our spirit did exist before being brought to earth!
Job 38: 7
7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Prov. 8: 22-31
22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.
Eccl. 12: 7
7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
Jer. 1: 5
5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
Thanks Rest. I had forgotten about the Proverbs reference, that one is powerfully eloquent.
Since Satan and a third of Heaven's Angels have been banished from Heaven, they cannot be the ones shouting for Joy ... but the Sons of God come in to the daughters of men and conceive giants????
And with humility and decades of scripture study, may I offer the following notions on the other verses you posted? I'll leave out the Hebrew Transliterated versions, to expedite.
Prov. 8:22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old. Jesus is the one being spoken of, as in a Messianic prophecy. This is not about you or me, it is about our Savior.
23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was. Ibid
24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:Ibid
26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:Ibid
28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.Ibid; this is a clear relating of how Messiah rejoiced as He witnessed Yahweh creating! And a beautiful perspective it is!!
Eccl. 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it. It is beyond the material in the verses to imply 'gave it' means it was always existing prior to Yahweh placing your spirit in you. Had Yahweh wanted to communictae that, He would have used some convention similar to that which He used in Jeremiah, in the next verse you offered.
Jer. 1: 5 We've dealt with this one in a previous post
Actually, no they do not. Not a single one. Do you actually read these passages to understand the context? Or do you just find lists of them at an LDS website?
best,
ampu
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