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To: Angry Write Mail

Angry Write Mail,

If you are really an ex-Mormon then please relate to me in a respectful manner how a true believer would view the similiarities of the early teachings and practives Christianity and to teachings and practices of the Mormon faith?

Also tell me how a true believing Mormon would account for the fallacy of DNA evidence of the Tower of Babel (Tower Babel says that all DNA is derived 4000 years ago from Syria) and the current DNA found in American Indian relating to ancient Isreal?

Also tell me how a true believer would account for Satan being described as a fallen angel and taking 1/3 of the host of heaven with him?

Also, please relate to me as a true believer why the literal translation of God in Genesis is Eloheim or the plural form of God with both sexes (male and female) emphasized in Hebrew? What is the true believer’s explanation for this if we take the translation literal?


157 posted on 04/05/2007 10:34:00 PM PDT by nowandlater
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To: nowandlater; PGalt; sevenbak; DelphiUser; restornu; colorcountry; cpforlife.org; Coleus; ...
You asked of another poster: "... please relate to me as a true believer why the literal translation of God in Genesis is Eloheim or the plural form of God with both sexes (male and female) emphasized in Hebrew? What is the true believer’s explanation for this if we take the translation literal?" With assistance dug from the pages of 'Yada Yada Yahweh' I will endeavor to address that request.

Jesus had a body, a soul, and a 'set-apart' spirit. The 'set apart' spirit is the Hebrew Language feminine component of the name Eloheim (actually Elohiym) with which you are struggling, not a female personage with whom God The Father Almighty mated to conceive Jesus. [If you would like further exegesis of this terminology, I'll post it for you.]

It was the 'set apart' spirit which Jesus had depart from Him at the crucifixion so that His soul could descend into hell. It was also the 'set-apart' spirit which raised Him from the grave by calling Him forth and soon after rejoined with His soul, as witnessed by the admonishment give to Mary not to touch Him at the tomb because He was not yet 'ascended'. Ascension in this tomb-setting scene speaks of restoration to a state of Glory, not a location to be traveled to ... beside the tomb, Jesus still had the 'stink of death to the body and torment of hell to the soul' upon him, not yet fully restored with the 'set-apart' spirit of God The Father Almighty'. But this state of transition is accomplish quickly because with His next appearance He welcomes touch and asks for food.

Jesus and the Father are one, not to be defined as two separate people, but part of the Triune nature of the Creator and sovereign of the universe and all that is, was, or will be. Let's examine that a bit further since this visionary mischaracterization of two people permeates Joseph Smith's supposed vision(s) of God and Jesus and has been misconstrued in the vision of Stephen at his stoning when he 'saw Heaven opened' and Jesus positioned to the 'right hand' of the Glory of God The Father Almighty'.

In the 14th Chapter of John's gospel, we read of a physics lesson given to Philip ['All you can see of the Father is what you see in me, for I am in the Father and the Father in Me']. Further, we have Jesus's own clarifications as to the meaning of this physics lesson.

In John 14 we have Yahushua (Jesus) saying: "Let not your heart be anxious or troubled. Trust God. Rely on Me. In My Father’s family and home there are many dwelling places. If it were not so, I would have told you. For I go from one place to another (poreuomai - transfer, and depart from life) to prepare and make ready for (hetoimazo - to make necessary preparations; to condition and ready people by way of resolution for) passage to this place and position (topos). And when I go from one place to another, departing from this life (poreuomai) to accomplish the necessary preparations to condition and ready people by way of resolution (hetoimazo) for passage to this place and position (topos), I will come forth again to renew (palin) and receive you (paralambano - taking you in to join Me, bringing you to My side, welcoming you) to Myself, that where I Am (eimi - I exist and am present), there you may be also. ...Yahushua said, I Am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to (erchomai - arises and appears before) the Father but through (dia - by way of) Me. If you know (ginosko - recognize, acknowledge, experience, and understand) Me, you belong to the home and family (oikeios - household and dwelling place) of the Father also. And now, at this very moment (arti - at this time and place) you are familiar with and know Him and have seen Him with your eyes." (John 14:1-6) Seeing Jesus they saw the Father as best their limited physical and spiritual limitations could see such an being.

But we are to understand that God the Father Almighty is so much more than we are able to perceive in Jesus though God is in Jesus and Jesus in the Father:

Psalm 88 begins with the three most important names in creation: "Yahuweh ‘Elohiym Yashuw’ah." (Psalm 88:1) Yahuweh is ‘Elohiym/God as is Yahushua, the diminished manifestation of Yahuweh in human form. The reason that Yahushua is the diminished form of Yahuweh, the reason Yahshua follows Yahuweh in this verse, is because Yahshua said it was so. I and the Father are One. (John 10:29-30) Yahshua would later clarify this: The Father is greater in dimensions, mass, power and stature (megas) than I. (John 14:28) The reason that Yahshua is a reduced form of Yahuweh is because the Father’s undiminished presence would incinerate the earth and evaporate mankind. A power great enough to provide matter sufficient to form the universe would be comprised of energy equivalent to an infinite quantity of hydrogen bombs, a hundred of which would extinguish all life as we know it. For us to know God, for us to see God, for us to experience God, while still in our mortal bodies, God must manifest Himself in a form we can observe without dying and relate to without our senses being overwhelmed. Yahshua was a much God as would fit into a finite, three dimensional, human construct.

God the Father took flesh upon Himself, limiting Himself for a time, for our needed Salvation. Jesus walked the Earth with an indwelling 'set-apart' spirit which He set aside at crucifixion so that He could redeem us from our natural fate of dissolution of soul and body. The Salvation comes to each of believers, those trusting in Him for their Salvation, by the coming in to our human spirit of the 'set-apart' spirit which imparts LIFE to the lifeless soul of humankind. ONLY one come from the source of such LIFE could impart such Grace to us.

237 posted on 04/08/2007 1:24:12 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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