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To: peekingfromabox

For the record, my ‘morals’ match the Code of Conduct for members of the Armed Forces.

“Only when evasion by an individual is impossible and further fighting would lead only to death with no significant loss of the enemy should only consider surrender. With all reasonable means of resistance exhausted and with certain death the only alternative, capture does not imply dishonor.”

Not everyone is Rambo, despite what the 101st Fighting Keyboardists say. “No good decision was ever made in a swivel chair.””


96 posted on 04/04/2007 11:09:31 AM PDT by Adammon
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To: Adammon

101st Fighting Keyboardists


that’s a phrase they like to use on DKos. Interesting that you would use it here.


104 posted on 04/04/2007 11:13:45 AM PDT by balch3
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you are mistaking that one little snip you removed from a DISCUSSION of the Code as BEING part of the Code

It is not.


105 posted on 04/04/2007 11:15:06 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Adammon
"For the record, my ‘morals’ match the Code of Conduct for members of the Armed Forces.

“Only when evasion by an individual is impossible and further fighting would lead only to death with no significant loss of the enemy should only consider surrender. With all reasonable means of resistance exhausted and with certain death the only alternative, capture does not imply dishonor.”

"No significant loss of the enemy"? You got to be joking. The HMS Cornwall, a high-tech, heavily armed frigate was on the scene. They had eight anti-ship missiles at the ready, and could have sunk each and every one of the Iranian boats.

Captain Loyd Bucher of the Peublo did the same thing in 1968 only with North Korean pirates. But he actually tried to flee, and didn't surrender until he was heavily fired upon and lost one sailor and others were wounded, including himself. And there was NO ONE around to come to his aid. The Brits had an armed helicopter flying overhead and a heavily armed frigate, the HMS Cornwall in the immediate area. They stood down when they had a real chance to fight and put the enemy down to the bottom of the sea.

Captain Loyd Bucher was humiliated and court martial was recommended, but charges were later dismissed because Bucher had suffered enormously during his capture. Bucher did a lot more to avert capture than these Brits did, and even so he was disgraced in the Navy for surrendering. After capture, his men endured an entire year of severe torture before they began to make phoney 'confessions', all the while doing things like naming "Maxwell Smart" as their 'accomplices', and flipping the bird en masse to the N. Korean photographer to show the world their courage and defiance against the NK's. Due to their bravery and non-compliance with their North Korean capturers some of Pueblo crew were awarded decorations for heroism. The Brits began to make their "confessions" immediately after capture. Something has broken down and I believe it is directly related to our wimpy cultures today, and lack of patriotism and courage.

You are defending an act of cowardice, or at the very least an act of shameful timidity in the face of an inferior enemy.

146 posted on 04/04/2007 12:47:01 PM PDT by peekingfromabox
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